Silas Wheeler EVANS

[Bill Childs]

Cr21. Here's the lookup on your EVANS.
Amanda Jane had 10 children, 8 were still living in 1900 & 1910.
Silas's father was Richard W. (Wheeler?) Evans, b.abt. 1827 in Ky (the most consistently recorded birthplace) or in Va.
Silas's mother was Rachael Newman, b.abt. 1830, listed twice as born in Ohio (probably true) but listed once as b. Va.

Richard Evans married Rachel Newman on April 30, 1849 in Adams Co., Ohio.
(from ancestory.com's home page, click on the "Search Records" tab. On the "Search Records" page, fill in only surname "evans", state "ohio", put "adams" in the Keyword block and hit "search".
When the search results are displayed, look in the Marriages section for that, as well as the census sections for most of the census info cited below (excluding 1910 & 1900, which came off of genealogy.com's census images).

All of these people were listed on census records as "White" but since they were never in the South :) , it's impossible to know.
A picture's worth a thousand words.

Alice doesn't appear directly in these records so if you're certain about the names Silas Wheeler & Amanda J. Evans, Alice probably wasn't the only name she had. Check the ages of the children and see if you can come up with a match. I'd appreciate your letting me know since I'm certain the records below are your people.
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1910 Union Co., NM, Census, ED284, Precinct 20, Ione? (city)
28 & 29 April; p.126A (orig. pg.4A?), (Image 7), at 115, 115:
EVANS, Silas; laborer, m, W, 55, m1- 32 ; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Amanda; wife, f, W, 55, m1- 32; 10/8; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), John D.; son, m, W, 33; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), William C.; son, m, W, 25; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Samuel B.; son, m, W, 17; Kans, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Bertha May; dau, f, W, 13; Kans, Oh, Oh.
RAMSEY, William; boarder, m, W, 26; Okla, U.S., U.S.

1900 McPherson Co., Kans. Census; ED151, Superior Twp,
Inman City, 6 June; p.206A (image 7), at 71, 72 :
EVANS, Silas W.; gardening; W, m, Apr 1855, 45, m-24; Oh,Oh,Oh.
(ditto), Amand J.; wife; W, f, Jun 1855, 44, m-24; 10/8; Oh, Oh,Va.
(ditto), John D.; son; W,m,May 1875, 25; lab'r on R.R.; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Mary E.; dau; W,f, Mar 1882, 18; Servant; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), William C.;son; W,m,Sep 1885, 14; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Emeline; dau; W,f, Nov 1887, 12; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Anna D.; dau; W,f, Jan 1890, 10; Kans, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Samuel B.; son; W,m, Nov 1892, 7; Kans, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Bertha M.; dau; W,f, Mar 1897, 3; Kans, Oh, Oh.

1880 Adams Co., Oh. Census; ED 7, Liberty, 22 & 23 June;
p.95D (image 24):
EVANS, Silas W.; W, m, 24; farm lab'r; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Amanda J.; W, f, 23; wife; Oh, "(Penn)", --
(ditto), John D.; W, m, 5; son; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Carie A.; W, f, 1/12 "May"; dau; Oh, Oh, Oh.

1880 Foote Co., Kans. Census; ED395, 19 June; p.550B (image 18) (note: renamed in 1887 as Gray County - next county west of Dodge City, Kans.)
EVANS, R. W.; farmer; m, W, 54; Ky, Va, Ky.
(ditto), Sarah; wife; f, W, 36, "2nd wife"; Ark, Eng., Eng.
(ditto), Dora; dau; f, W, 17; Oh, Ky, Oh. *
(ditto), Minta; dau; f, W, 14; Oh, Ky, Oh. *
(ditto), Jane; dau; f, W, 11; Oh, Ky, Oh. *
(ditto), Lyda; dau; f, W, 9; Oh, Ky, Oh.
(ditto), Letta A.; dau; f, W, 7; Oh, Ky, Oh.

("2nd wife" appears on the census record.)
( * note: compare "Dora", "Minta" and "Jane" above to the
"Eldora", "Arminta" and "Mary J." below.)

1870 Adams Co., Ohio census; Meigs Twp, 13 July; P.O.: Wheat Ridge. p.125, at 201, 201:
EVANS, Richard W.; 45; m, W; farmer, $1200, $600; Ky.
(ditto), Rachel; 38; f, W; Ohio.
(ditto), Samuel; 18; m, W; Oh.
(ditto), Evan; 16; m, W; Oh.
(ditto), WHEELER; 13; m, W, Oh.****
(ditto), David W.; 9; m, W, Oh.
(ditto), Eldora; 7; f, W, Oh.
(ditto), Arminta; 4; f, W, Oh.
(ditto), Mary J.; 2; f, W, Oh.
(ditto), Lilly L.; 3/12 "March"; f, W, Oh.
HUNT, Eliza Jane; 23; f, W; "living in Family", Ky.

1860 Adams Co., Oh., Census; Jefferson Twp, P.O.: Blue Creek, 21 June; p.30A (image 18), at 398, 403:
R. W. EVANS; 33, m, W, farmer, $1200, $505, Virginia.
Rachel (ditto); 30, f, W; (ditto "Virginia" above).
Serena (ditto); 9, f, W; Ohio. (same as "Cyrena" in 1850.)
Samuel (ditto); 8, m, W; Ohio.
Evan (ditto); 6, m, W; Ohio.
WHEELER (ditto); 4, m, W; Ohio.

1850 Adams Co., Oh. Census; Jefferson Twp, 21 July, p.217A (image 36), at 2304, 2304:
Richard EVANS; 23, m, - , Hunter, $150, Va.
Rachael (ditto); 20, f, - , Ohio.
Cyrena (ditto); 1, f, - , Ohio.
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Bill

[-cr21-]

Hmm.. maybe Alice is this Carie? My book here says she was born in 1880. I know the names are correct. I have the album with photos and names by them. I found these people on ancestry.com thanks to your help. The source on their also says the Newman side was Jewish and marriages took place outside of the church. Now to just find this Richards parents. Any idea on them? Oh also, one George Newman b 1743 in Orange Co, Va took a Mary Robertson as his wife outside of the church. Whether this is the same Robertsons, I am not sure. Anything on the Caraway/Carraway surname from Va?

[Bill Childs]

Yes. Carrie A. matches up but couldn't find anything on her.
Important to make any connection, who did Alice marry?

Found a line that connects Richard Evans' wife Rachel Newman to both Caraway's and Robertson's.
Interesting:
The anglo-saxon naming convention (almost regardless of origin of the parents), prevalent in the 1700s until the mid to late 1800s would make a first born daughter named after her mother's mother. Rachel Newman Evans named her 1st born dau "Cyrena"/"Serena". Rachel's mother was supposedly Cyrena Randalls who married Samuel Drake Newman, a "Camp Clergyman" (1850 Adams Co Census Jeff.Twp - image 35 - whose kids match Marge Mercer's list, minus Rachel who was marr'd by then), and Samuel and Cyrena Newman lived 3 doors away from Richard and Rachel Newman in 1850 Adams Co., Jeff. Twp - see image 36 for the Newmans and image 37 for the Evans. Depends on what Marge Mercer is using for proof that Rachel is their daughter. Seems pretty reasonable to me, but you should contact her is you haven't already, and see what proof she's got.
(She may be using the book you referenced as her proof. As you probably know, some of these family genealogy books are good and some are wishful thinking.)

Rachel's line according to Marge Mercer ( nelleb@zoomnet.net ) runs back thru this Newman line : Rachel b.1830 / Samuel b.1803 / Samuel b.1768 Rev War Patriot buried in Caraway Cemetery in Jefferson Twp of Adams Co., Ohio/ George Newman b.1743 Orange Co., Va / George Newman b.1720 Phila., Pa OR Germany and "may have been Jewish".
George Newman, b.1768 Alexandria Va married a Nancy _?_ b.1771 Va, "possibly a Caraway". (a Henry Caraway appears on the 1807 & 1809 Adams Co., Ohio Tax List and may be her brother or other relative.)

At ancestry.com's home page, key in "Wheeler Evans" in the U.S, state of Ohio.
Look down in the "Ancestry World Tree" of the results page and click on that...
On the first page of those listings..... click on the 3rd "Wheeler Evans" with parents Richard Evans and Rachel Newman. Click on Rachel Newman's name and follow that line back by clicking on each parent. They don't show a record of Richard's father either.

Caution: There is a Newman / Wheeler association in nearby Ross Co., where several Newman descendants of Samuel Newman (b.1768) settled.

The same naming convention would make Richard's father a "Samuel" Evans OR they named him after Rachel's father which might be unusual unless Richard and his father had had a falling out, which makes anything possible.
In 1860 Adams Co., living very near Richard & Rachel, are Evan Evans, b.abt.1825 Ky; Thomas Evans, b.abt.1814 Ky; William Evans, b.abt.1830 Ohio. This line of Evans appear to be the ones who came out of the line of Thomas Evans (b.1737 Wales(?), d.1808 Monongalia Co., Va (WVa) and Will probated 8 Aug 1808) married Catherine C. Barnes (b.1739, d.1794). Most of their children moved to Carter and Floyd Co., Ky by 1810. (there is a Richard W. Evans, 50 to 59 yrs old, in 1840 Carter Co., Ky, who has two males 15 to 19 yrs old in his household.)
The names of Thomas & Catherine Barnes Evans' children born in the mid to late 1700s were:
Richard W., Evan, David, Benjamin, Thomas, James & John, which
match the male Evans's of Adams Co., Oh., and some descendants of these Evans do show up in Ohio so this may be a clue.
I think it's more than a coincidence.

Now then, the Evan Evans, 35, b.Ky, living 5 doors away from Richard Evans on the 1860 Adams Co Census (Jeff.Twp, image 18) named his 1st two sons Richard and Samuel. Richard Evans (father of Silas) named his 1st two sons Samuel and Evan.
Thomas Evans (image 23) named his 1st two sons William and David.

Again, need to know who Alice married and flesh that out.
Bill

[-cr21-]

Thanks Bill. Alice married Charles Adam Davidson. I don't know much about his ancestry except that the name is common among the Ashkenazic. He was also dark skinned with black wavy hair.

[-cr21-]

Can you find anything on this Davidson family Bill?

[Bill Childs]

I've been looking. He appears to be spontaneously generated :)
Can't find him anywhere and can't find the EVANS after 1910 either. Has your family line been in Iowa long?
Bill

[-cr21-]

This is my mothers side. They weren't in Iowa. As far as I know Kansas and Nebraska would be a place to look. Now my grandpa said this Charles Davidson was born in Nebraska, but when they went to Lincoln to look it up he wasn't there. So maybe he was born in Kansas or somewhere else. This part of the family is most difficult to track down. Is there a Charles Davidson in census records for 1900 or 1910 more likely with Carrie or Alice as his wife? A 1920 census probably in KS or the 1910 would have them together. My great grandpa Clyde Davidson was born in 1914. Hopefully you can find something on them. No one in the family knows anything about them. David is the root surname of Davidson. Maybe that will help. No clue.

[Bill Childs]

Yes, I checked Kansas very closely for a Charles or Adam and numerous variations on the spelling of the last name. Obviously i didn't think of everything - it's pretty rare for someone not to be found for 4 census year searchs. Just wondering how simple an oversight I've made !
I'll try for Clyde, b.abt. 1914, and see if that helps.
Bill

[Bill Childs]

Clyde and his age did the trick.
Look at 1930 Wyandotte Co., Kansas - District 49 - they're on the 1st image. Still looking for them in 1920.

[-cr21-]

Where do you go to see the image? If it is ancestry.com do you need a paying membership? I don't have one. If possible, could you gather some information for me please? How their listed and where.

[Bill Childs]

Sorry. Somewhere I got the idea that you did have ancestry.com.
Here's the census info:

1930 Wyandotte Co., Ks Census; District 49 Kansas City Twp, 6th Ward; April 3; p.1A - 250 Scott Av. - at 2, 2 :
Davidson, Charles A; Laborer; m, W, 44; Nebr, Nebr, Nebr.
(ditto) , Alice; wife; f, W 48; Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
(ditto) , Clyde; son; m, W, 16; Kans, Nebr, Ohio.
(ditto) , Floyd; son; m, W, 8; Nebr, Nebr, Ohio.
(ditto) , Etta J.; dau; f, W, 7; Kans, Nebr, Ohio.

Charles & his parents were born in Nebr.
Alice & her parents were born in Ohio.
Charles marr'd when he was 20 yrs old.
Alice was 24 when she marr'd.
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Bill

[-cr21-]

Thank you for this info. Is there any way you would be able to track back through Charles' parents or more? My family is all very interested to know this information. This is all greatly appreciated.

[Bill Childs]

Yes, that's always the "plan".

1920 Wyandotte Co., Ks Census - ED189 Kansas City, 90th Precinct, 6th Ward - 12 January, p.18B, at 171, 206:
Living at 631 Scott Ave:
Davidson, Charley; Teamster; m, W, 35; Nebr, Nebr, Nebr.
(ditto) , Alice; wife; f, W, 38; Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
(ditto) , Clyde; son; m, W, 5; Kans, Nebr, Ohio.
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Bill

[-cr21-]

Is there anything on Charles' parents? Thank you again for your research.

[Bill Childs]

I'm looking for them.

[Bill Childs]

Alice Evans was married before she married Charles A. Davidson, according to the 1910 census.

1910 Wyandotte Co Kans census - ED188, Pct 32, 6th Ward, 28 April, p.25B, living at 704 Cheyenne Ave, Kans.City, Ks:
at 513, 563:
Davidson, Charles A., 25, m-1x, (for) 1 yr; Nebr, U.S., U.S.
(ditto), Alice; wife; 30, m-2x, 1 yr, 5/4; Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
(ditto), Eva M.; dau, 3 months; Missouri, Nebr, Ohio.
Schletzbaum, Jesse R.; step-son; 12, Kans, Ill, Ohio.
(ditto), Edith; step-dau; 10, Kans, Ill, Ohio.
(ditto), Buelah; step-dau; 8, Kans, Ill, Ohio.
(ditto), John; Boarder; 44, Ill, Germany, Germany.

Charles Davidson is marr'd one time for 1 year.
Alice is shown as marr'd twice and for 1 year this time. She has had 5 children and 4 are living - Eva M. Davidson and the three Schletzbaum children.
Charles worked in a Soap Factory.
John Schletzbaum worked in a Packing Company.

1900 McPherson Co Kans census, ED151 Superior Twp, 13 June, p.210A, at 146, 149:
Schletzbaum, John; Painter; June 1863, 36, m-4 yrs; Ill, Ger, Ger.
(ditto), Allice C.; wife; April 1880, 20, m-4 yrs; Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
(ditto), Jessie R; son; July 1897, 2; Kans, Ill, Ohio.
(ditto), Edith; dau; July 1899, 10 months; Kans, Ill, Ohio.

In 1900, Silas W. Evans lived at 71, 72, and is on p.206A, about 70 some odd houses away from Alice and her family.

Alice's first husband is probably the son of Francis (b.abt. 1842 Bavaria, Ger) and Elizabeth (nee: Schaad, b.abt. 1838 Switzerland) Schletzbaum who lived in Atchison Co., Kans in 1880.
If you want to follow these lines back, go to genforum.com and in the upper right hand corner and type in Schletzbaum in the "Jump To Forum" block. Click on "Vince Miller" who posted message # 1, scroll down to "shown this users posting history" and there, scroll down and click on the "Schletzbaum" posts - a David Tuttle has SCHAAD data back into the 1660s. Not sure how clear these instructions are so if you can't follow them, let me know and I'll see if I can clear them up.

Jessie R. Schletzbaum was still in Wyandotte Co in 1920 and his wife is Annabelle, 17, b. Arkansas, father born "U.S." and mother b. Ohio. They have a son Roy F.(?), 1 month old.

I'm still trying to find Charles's parents.
Bill

[-cr21-]

I am familiar with these other people. I have their pictures as well. Still no leads on Charles parents?

[Bill Childs]

That information might have knocked 10 or 12 hours off of the search time. Do you know anything at all about Charles's parents ? :)
At present, there are 1,152 Charles Davidsons to wade thru on the 1900 census. It all takes time.
Bill

[-cr21-]

Wow that is a lot of records. I don't know what their names are. Just that they are supposedly from Nebraska. Him and his parents. That could be wrong though. Can you search for him by his age there? He would have been about 15 or something. He was born about 1885 correct? Maybe my grandpa knows them. I will try him one more time.

[Bill Childs]

I've finished checking census records for Charles's parents in Nebr and Kans without finding them. Without at least a name we can find in 1900, there isn't much chance of finding them so I hope your Grandfather can come up with a name.
Bill

[-cr21-]

Hey I was just curious if you would be able to check one more time for me about charles or charley davidson please.. born 1885 or 86.. maybe just search on him in 1890.. might find his parents.. maybe let me know the results.. thanks

[Bill Childs]

Hey CR21, How have you been?

Sorry, there's nothing to check. The 1890 Census was burned in a warehouse fire. That has made it difficult for a lot of people to find some of their ancestors.
Bill

[-cr21-]

What about Charles or Charley Davidson in 1900?

[Bill Childs]

I wasn't able to find him in 1900.

[lynellarainhawk]

And darn! No Ezra Evans or Elizabeth Miller in there anywhere!:)

[-cr21-]

Would them living in caravans have something to do with this and not being counted? My great grandpa was raised in one.. that would be Clyde with his mom and dad Charles. There is a Davidson line out of the border country of England and Scotland that were ministers and merchants of the gypsies there... the Evans and Wheeler names are common gypsy names from southern England too. I should get the pics scanned and send them to you to look at.. they are something else.. infront of a caravan with a large drum.. mandolin and tambourines.. Thanks for trying to find them.

[Bill Childs]

If they were traveling around, they could easily have been missed on a census.
Bill

[-cr21-]

What about 1880.. Any Davidsons in Nebraska at that time? Southern Nebraska probably. Thanks

[Bill Childs]

Yes, the 1100+ records I checked were just from Ks, Nebr, Mo & Okla. Since Charles was born about 1885, there would be no way of identifying his parents in 1880 unless you have one or more of their names or the names of siblings born before 1880.
You'll need to find some info on them to continue that search.
I'll be glad to help when you get it.
Bill

[-cr21-]

My grandpa told me that Charles had a brother name Frank.. maybe that will yield something... who knows? Thanks

[Bill Childs]

I'll take a look for Frank.

[-cr21-]

Alright.. Thanks Bill

[-cr21-]

Hey Bill,
I sent some pics to your comcast account. They are of the Davidsons and Evans line. Thanks for all your help.

[-cr21-]

hey bill.. just sent you more photos and info if you hadnt seen them yet.. thanks again

[Bill Childs]

CR21,
Do you know when Frank Davidson was born?
Bill

[-cr21-]

I would imagine around the same timeframe as charles... another interesting tidbit of info i got from my grandpa lastnight... apparently alice's mom amanda j married charles adam davidson's dad after divorcing silas or something or another..maybe searching for amanda j at a later time under davidson could work.. in finding out this mystery man.. .. so they apparently had known each other fairly well... if nebraska... kansas and missouri produce nothing.. id recommend checking ohio too.... thanks again.. and i sent a couple more questions in email too..

[Bill Childs]

cr21
I just sent you a 5 page email but it was returned undeliverable.
A short test msg failed too.
I'll try it again in the morning but "failing" that :) I'll post it under their names here.
Bill

[-cr21-]

ok bill.. thanks again.. sorry my mailbox might be full.. ill check it out..

[-cr21-]

Ok.. I think the email is sorted out a bit.. if not.. just post it here