Govind Sanyal Research w/permission

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

Part1

This research was done by Govind Sanyal who’s father was East Indian and mother was American Indian. Govind has worked with Professor Airy Dixon on this research. I ask if I could share it with others as I have heard many of the surnames while communicating on the Saponitown forum. I ask if I might give his email address so others could communicate but he said he is really busy with tribal business and work that it was best not to post address. His work is well documented so please check it carefully to see if there is a clue to your own journey through history.


James Bennett , Thomas Hoyter,Charles Beasley,Jeremiah Pushin, John Robins,John Read(e/ing) & Nuce Will Chief men of the Chowan Indians…[Chowan DBW:250]

A Corn List for Beaufort and Hyde Predincts 1715

In 1715 the government of North Carolina imposed a levey of corn,wheat, and money on every tithable in the colony to provide money and provisions for a small army of YAMASSEE Indians from South Carolina to protect the settlers. This levy was in response to an early morning massacre on September 22, 1711 in the eastern region of North Carolina.
Portion of a corn list of 1715 is found in the Colonial Court Records; Box 190;Folder “Corn List, no dates, 1715-1716”, Taxes & Accounts, 1679-1754.

North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh,NC

Richard Harvy 2
James Bright 1
Oliver Smith 1
Joseph Hall 1
Fra. Gerganeos 1
Robert Spring 2
John Bright 1
John Foreman 1
Cull Flynn 3
Thomas Morrice 1
James Welsh 1
James Hall 1
John Jordan 2
W. Leciss 2
Roger Mason 1
John Hester 1
Jos Cook 1
Richard Jasper 2
Thomas Tooly 1
Henry Lambath 1
Thomas Proctor 1
Cor Bell 2
Simon Foscu 1
Gilford Silverthorne 1
Thomas Gidians 1
Ben Sanderson 3
John Leeth 1
Henry Slade 1
Robert Banks 1
Daniel Cocks 1
John Porter 2
Charles Smith 2
Abraham Wilkenson 1
Coll’o Cleeves 2
Sam Slade 3
Wid Tice 3
John Slade 1
Benjamin Slade 1
Theo Phillips 1
Widow Oden 2
John Oden 2
Tho’s Worsley 2
Henry Smith 1
Edward Carter 2
John Adams 1
Giles Shute 1
Mr.Drinkwater 1
Coll Cary 3
Richard Albeen 1
Tho’s Cealy 1
Sam Mattam 1
Porter Price 2
Mr. Reading 5
Tho’s Blount 2
Col Gale 2
Tho’s Harding 1
Will Jones 1
John Chester 1
Tho’s Henderson 1
Antho McKealy 1
Joseph Shackleton 3
John Trip 1
James Nevil 1
George Hill 1
Mr. Leigh & Son 2
Peter Punndant 1
James Singleton 1
Phillip Prichard 1
Robert Aldershire 1
William Sidley 1
John Clark 3


The Blounts were Tuscarora and Thomas Blount became chief of that tribe. During the Tuscarora war ca:1711, it was the YAMASSEE that had assisted the colonists in subjugating that tribe.

William Reade son of John Reade(ing)
Birth abt 1673
Death: Feb 1764
Brunswick Co. Va.
Married Mary
Children: Joseph Reed
Birth 05 May 1700, Chowan, North Carolina
Death:1750
Will: Anson Co. NC [his will mentions land near the Catawba River aka Wateree River, cited in Aldridge Records vol 2, p. 89]

Anson Co. appears to have been a refuge for the Va/NC Indians who were part of a diaspora from those colonies. The following can further demonstrate this: George 1 Skiper, born say 1685, was sued in Bertie County by George Allen who accused him of having detained his servant, Mary Bailey,between 17 December 1719 and 13 August 1722[Saunders, Colonial Records of the “Chief men of the Nottoway Indians” who sold their land in Southampton County on February 2, 1749/50 {DB1:98]George was called George Skeper, Sen, when he purchased 120 acres in Bertie County in Urahaw Woods on the northeast side of Quarter Swamp[present-day Northampton County]from James Skeper on 6 August 1725. He and his wife Mary sold this land on 11 January 1728. On 14 March 1729 he sold 615 acres in this same area on the south side of Potecasie Creek which he had patented on 1 January 1725 [DBB:184;C:118,230]. He received a patent for 200 acres on the north side of the Neuse River on 21 March 1742/3 which was probably the land he sold by deed proved in Johnston County between 1 November 1746 and April 1750 [DB:1:20]He may have been the father of George , born say 1720.

George Skiper, born say 1720, was one of the “Chief men of the Nottoway Indian Nation” who sold their land in Southampton County, Virginia on 2 February 1749 [DB 1:98,131,144]He may have been the George Skipperwho the previous day, 1 February 1749/50, purchased 200 acres in Anson County, North Carolina on the north side of the Pee Dee River [DB A:92]He sold 80 acres of this land and 8 horses to {his son}Barnabas Skipper on 15 February 1765 [DB 3:188,192] He was called George Skipper, Sr. in 1763 list of taxables for Anson County where he was taxable on 5 tithes [Holcolm,Anson County, NC, 122] His sons were most likely
i. Barnabas ,born say 1744, taxable on one tithe in Anson Co. in 1763

ii. Benjamin, born say 1745, taxable on one tithe in Anson County in 1763


Jordan Gibson, Jr. who recorded a plat for 150 acres adjoining Jordan Gibson SR, on the southwest side of the Pee Dee River in Craven County, South Carolina, on 26 January 1765 [Colonial Plats 8:20]. He sold 200 acres in Anson County, North Carolina, on the north side of the Pee Dee River on Falling Creek branch of Hitchcock’s Creek to Benjamin Deas on 15 November 1768 by deed witnessed by Gideon Gibson, and he sold another 300 acres in Anson County in the same area on 2 May 1777 [DB7:224,320]. Perhaps he was related to Thomas Gibson who purchased land in this same area of Anson County on 18 August 1761 [DB 6:190]. According to Gregg, Jordan went to the west as companion of Daniel Boone. He or perhaps a son by the same name was among those “killed by Indians” in North Carolina on 7 January 1788 [NCGSJ IX:236].

Province of North Carolina 1663-1729

Abstracts of Land Patents

By Margaret M. Hofmann

Eason, William 2180,2193,2285,2290

Lassetor/Lacesster, John 910,2154

Page 163

William EASON Aug 4, 1723 328 acres in Bertie precinct on the North side of Morattock Riverm joining Owen ODaniel, sd.Eason, and James PARKER.
Witnesses:William REED, C.GALE, R. SANDERSON, J.LOVICK, T.POLLOCK.

Page 166

Tarlow OQUINN Aug 4, 1723 300 acres in Bertie precinct on the northside of Morattock (aka Chowan) River in Roonoroy Meadow, joining William EASON, Colo.MAULE, and Marsh.

Witnesses:William REED, C GALE, R.SANDERSON, J.LOVICK, Thomas POLLOCK.




Page 188

William Gray Feb 1, 1725, 40 acres in Bertie precinct on the head of a tract of land called Snowfield near the head of Falling Run, joining Theo WILLIAMS, sd.GRAY, William EASON, ans Owen ODANIEL.

Witnesses: Richard EVERARD, C.GALE, J LOVICK, E.MOSELEY, Thomas POLLOCK, Thomas HARVEY, John BLOUNT.

Page 189

William Gray Dec 22, 1724 640 acres in Bertie precinct on the North side of Morattack River, joining sd. GRAY, the going over of the W.side of Falling Run, the Runroy path, Theo WILLIAMS, William EASON, James BLOUNT, and John WILLIAMS

Witnesses: George BURRINGTON, William REED, C.GALE, John LOVICK, E.MOSELEY, Thomas POLLOCK, Thomas HARVEY, F.FOSTER.

Page 61

Robert LASSITER (date not given) 610 acres in Chowan precinct on ye S. side of Bennett’s Creek joining Watry Swamp, Ephraim BLANCHET, ye Chowan Indians line, and the sd Creek.

Witnesses: (not given)

Page 61

Robert LASSITER March 30, 1721, 530 acres in Chowan precinct on ye S. side of Bennett’s Creek, joining Mary ROUNDTREE, ye Indians line, his own corner, and sd Creek.

Witnesses: C. EDEN, William REED, Frank FOSTER, Richard SANDERSON, John LOVICK.


Ephraim BLANCHARD: April 6, 1722 232 acres in Maherrine Neck, joining Robert LASSITER, the Chowan Indians, and Watry Branch.

Witnesses: Thomas POLLOCK, C. GALE, Richard SANDERSON, John LOVICK, Thomas POLLOCK Jr., John BLOUNT

Page 223

Robert LASSITER: Sept 4, 1714, 286 acres in Chowan precinct in Maherrin Neck, joining R.T. ROUNDTREE and Nicholas WILLIAMS.

Witnesses: Cha.EASON, Thomas BOYD, N. CHEVIN, William REED, C> GALE, Frank FOSTER.

William reed was a taxable in James Ellis’ household in the lower precinct of Southwarke Parish in Surry County from 1699 to 1703: called “Wm Read a Malatta”in 1699 [Magazine of Virginia Genealogy, vol 24, 2:77, 84;3:68,73;DW5:289] In May 1708 he began a suit against William Edwards in Surry County court for which he was awarded 1,285 pounds of tobacco on 21 September 1715 [Haun,Surry Court Courts VI:102;VII:89] William Read was living with his wife Mary Read in Brunswick County in 1729 when they sold 100 acres on the north side of the Nottoway River and both sides of Sappony creek [Surry DW 7C8:22] They were the parents of Joseph REED birth 5 May 1700 death 1750 Anson Co. NC

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

Joseph Reed’s son was William Reed Jr. {see 1800 census for Union Co. SC} William Reed Jr.’s son was Harold reed {1820 census for Union Co. SC} Harold Reed married Issabella Ingles of Sumter Co. who was enumerated by Carter G. Woodson {Census of Union Co. SC}as Issabella Reed without her husband, who was most likely died by this time. SC Issabella Ingles was enumerated as Issabella Reed on the 1850 census for Charleston SC in the household of William Ingles. Her children were my great great grandmother, Sara (Flora) Reed(e)8 years old and William Reed(e) 10. Most of the above families were enumerated as MULLATO, except in the Chowan Bennett Creek land sale where John Reading was listed as one of the Chief men of the Chowan Indians.

Isabella Reed Household
Birth 1790 SC
Marital Status – Married
Race B{Mullato/Indian}
Head of household Sandy Reed
Relation Other {Brother in law
Father’s Birth Place: SC
Mother’s Birth Place: SC
Source Information: 1880
Census Place –Wateree, Kershaw, SC
Family History Library Film 1255232
Page number 207C

The above Reed family demonstrates their connection to both the Saponi and Chowan tribe through not only relevant geographic tribal locations but by their communal interconnections with house neighbors and surnames that are historically significant to tribal ethnicities as well as their histories.

Please read the following in reguards to tribal areas.

1714
The Saponi,Tutelo, and Occanneechi going under the name of Saponi settled in Brunswick County, Virginia about a musket shot away from Fort Christanna.

The Flatt River [in part of Granville County that became Orange Co. NC in 1752]
Thomas POYTHRES, of Pr George Co.; 180 acres (N.L.)Surry Co.; N.side of Nottoway River on N. side of Woodyard SW a little above the fork; 23 March 1715, p.265. 20 shill.
William Read 21 February 1725 Isle of Wright 100 acres on the north side of the Meharrin River. Beginning g and c on East side of the Flatt Swamp Patent 12 p. 341 [Flatt Swamp considered Saponi Tribal area]

John Reed 22 Feb 1724 Isle of Wright 400 acres on the north side of the Meherrin River adjoining Ephraim Parham Patent 12 p. 220

William Reed 20 Sept 1768 Brunswick Co. 201 acres adjoining the land of Wm. Edwards and Debram Patents No. 38, 1768-70 p. 455

William Reed 9 July 1724 100 acres on the north side of the Nottoway River and on both sides of the Saponi Creek Patent Book ( G.S. The following is part of the Old Tuscaroras Revervation in bertie Co. NC)
1624 pg 21
George Cockburne 10 August 1720 440 acres in Chowan Precinct on the S. side of Cassia River, joining the N. side of Rocquis Swamp, a pocosin, a Branch and John Williams.
Witnesses: C. EDEN, Thomas POLLOCK, Wm REED, Richard SANDERSON, Fra FOSTER ( they sign all most all of them)

In 1733 the Saponi petition the Colonial government of NC to move to the Tuscaroras Reservation. The Chowanocs relocated there at the same time. MyReed anscestors were an amalgamation between these two tribes. The Reeds with other remnant tribal communities of N.C. and Va. Were part of a great exodus to the frontiers of S.C. where they confederated into the Notowegas and were protected by the Cherokee but governed by the Seneca. S.c. documents state that the Notowegas were Indians from the north composed of Meherrin [Conestoga remnants], Shawnee, Cheraw, Saponi, Seneca.

1675 The Meherrin Indians are at the north side of the Meherrin River pre-1713 the saponi Indians are at the south side of the Meherrin River.

1713 Tready of Fort Christanna includes 36 SQ MI set aside for the Saponi Indians in Brunswick county,Virginia

1746-7 The Saponi moved from the Pumunkey River area of Virginia to the Flatt River
[ Old Thomas COLLINS sold land on Pumunkey River in 1747 and moved to the FLATT River]

1767 Saponis are selling land on the Flatt River of Orange County,N.C. Saponis are moving to sections of the back woods of the New River in Virginia and N.C.
[believed to be Peachtree Bottom in what is now Grayson Co. Va.]

James Bennett, born say 1700, was one of the Chowan County Indians who sold their land on Bennett ‘s Creek in 1734 in the part of Chowan County which later became Gates county NC

James Bennett, Thomas Hoyter, Charles Beasley, Jeremiah Pushin, John Robins, John Reading, & Nuce Will Chief men of the Chowan Indians…[Chowan DB W:250]

He and John Robins were also called Chief men of the Chowan Indians on 19 November 1758 when they sold 300 acres of Indian land by deed proved in gates County [DB2:101] He ,James Bennett Jr. and Amos Bennett were called “Bennett’s Creek Indians” in October 1763 when they sold land by deed acknowledged in Chowan County court. And a deed from him and John robins was proved in Chowan county in October 1765 [Minutes 1761-6, 164,273] His descendants were probably

i. George Bennett born abt 1768, a thirteen year old “Indian boy” ordered by the Gates County court to be bound as an apprentice shoemaker to Edward Brisco in feb 1781 [Fouts, Minutes of Gates Co Court1779-86,29] He and {his brother]Joseph Bennett and James and Benjamin Robinswere called “Chief men and representatives of the Chowan Indian Nation” on 12 April 1790 when they sold for $100.00 , 400 acres of land which was part of the origional Indian patent of 24 April 1724[DB A-2:153]

ii. Joseph Bennett, born abt 1769, a 12 year old “Indian Boy” called Josiah Bennett in February 1781 when the gates County court ordered him bound as an apprentice cooper to Henry Booth [Fouts, Minutes of gates county court 1779-86, 29] He was head of a Gates County household of one “other free”in 1790 [NC:23]and an insolvent gates County taxpayer in 1794 [Fouts, Minutes of Gates County Court, 1:17] Perhaps his wife was Nancy Bennett, head of an Edenton, Chowan Co. household of 2 “free Colored”women in 1820 [NC:130]





Robins Family

Several members of the Robins family of Virginia, descendants of Indian women brought to Virginia by traders between 1682 and 1748, brought suit in April 1772 against persons who held them in slavery [Catterall, Judical Cases Concerning America Slavery. 1:91]

John Robins ,born say 1700, was one of the Chowan County Indians who sold their land on bennett’s Creek in 1734 in the part of Chowan County which later became Gates County. His likely descendants were
i. Nancy/Ann Robins born say 1743, was among eight Indians who purchased for 5 pounds..30 acres near the old Indian patenton 1 August 1782 in gates County
ii. James
iii. Benjamin
iv. Patience
v. Sarah
vi. Nancy
vii. Elizabeth
viii. Dorcas
ix. Christian

The following year she was identified as their mother in a deed for land adjoining theirs [DB A-2:33,46] Their father may have been deceased,or they may have still been following the Indian custom of matrilineal decent.
In 1791 these eight members of the Robins family and george and Joseph Bennett were the only surviving adult members of the Chowan Tribe according to the committee of the General Assembly which authorized their sale of the last 400 acres of their land [DB 2:274]. Nan Robins
May have been the female head of their small clan..as Edy Turner was the female head of the surviving Nottoway Indians[Roundtree,”The Termination and Dispersal of the Nottoway Indians” VMHB 95:193-214]. Their purchase of this land in common indicates that they still maintained some tribal customs. However, their purchase of abandoning their customs since the land would have been too small to support their traditional ways of life….hunting,fishing,and subsistence agriculture. The indenture of their children to white households probably completed their transision from Indian culture. On 20 August 1821 their land was divided among Sarah, Nancy, Elizabeth,Thaney, Lewis, Treasy, and Judith Robins.[DB 11:40].

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

Ann Robins was head of a Gates County household of 4 “other free”in 1800 [NC:276]. 5 in 1810 9called Nancy) [NC:842], and 7 “free colored”in 1820 [NC:155]. Possible children of Ann mentioned in 1 August 1782 purchase of 30 acres were

i. James, born say 1760
ii. Benjamin, born abt 1765, a fourteen year old Indian boy ordered bound by the Gates County Court as an apprentice planter to James Garritt ,Sr. in November 1779. He was about 17 year ols in May 1781 when he was bound to Jethro Miltear [Fouts, Gates county Court Minutes 1779-86,10,32]
iii. Patience say born 1763
iv. Sarah bor say 1766
v. Elizabeth
vi. Dorcas, head of a Gates County household of 6 “other free” in 1800 [NC 276] and 4 in 1810 [NC 10:366]

3 Lucy Robins born say 1750, was mother of Samuel Robbins, a 15 yr old illegitimate boy, no race indicated, who was bound as a apprentice cooper to Jethro Miltear by gates county court in feb. 1787. she may also have been mother of Elisha Robbins, an Indian boy who was bound to Jothro Miltear 6 yrs earlier in May 1781. Lucy was the mother of
i. Mary born 1768
ii. Elisha born abt 1770
iii. Hardy born say 1770 head of a gates co. household of one “other free” in 1790 [NC:23] an insolvent taxpayer in 1791 and 1794
iv. Samuel born say 1772 an insolvent taxpayer in Gates Co. in 1794
[Fouts, Minutes of County Court, Gates Co., 1787-93,3;1794-99,40]

v. James born abt 1780, an 11 yr old Indian boy bound (no parents named), bound as an apprentice turner to William Gordon by the Gates Co. 1787-93,81]



James Robbins born say 1760, was among eight members of the family named as buyers of 30 acres near the old Indian patent line in gates county on 1 August 1782 [DB A-2:33] In 1783 this land was called the “line of children of Nan Robbins” but by 1793 it was called James Robbins’ land [DB3;167] on April 12, 1790 he (his brother) Benjamin Robins and george and Joseph Bennett were called “Chief men and representatives of Chowan Indian Nation” when they sold for $100.00 400 acres of the origional 11,360 acres which the tribe held by patent of 24 April 1724 [DB 2:153] He sued John Odom and William Watson in Gates County court for 4 pounds damages in May 1795 [Fouts,Minutes of County Court,gates Co.,1794-99,35] He was head of a Gates County household of 15 “other free” and one white woman in 1790 [NC:23], 3 “other free” and one white woman in 1800 [NC:276], and 2 “other free” in 1810 [NC:842] Perhaps his children were:

i. Jacob born 1776-94 ,head of a Gates County household of 5 “other free”in 1810 [NC:842]and 8+ “free colored “ in 1820 [NC:155] He purchased land by deed proved in Gates Co. in May 1811 [Minutes 1806-11,697] and Feb 1814 [Minutes 1812-17,827] and was living in Perquimans County on 6 Feb 1816 when he sold 30 acres in Gates Co. [DB 10:125]

ii. Josiah born 1776-94, head of an Orange Co. household of 5 “free colored”in 1820 [NC:336] He married Tabithia Shoecraft. They moved with the Shoecraft family from Hertford to Orange and then to Guilford County household of 7 free colored in 1830.

iii. Lewis, head of a Gates Co. household of 2 “other free in 1810 [NC:842]

iv. Kingston, one of the “sundry persons of Colour of Hartford County” who petitioned the General Assembly in 1822 to repeal the act which declared slaves to be competent witnesses against free African Americans [NCGSJXI:252]

v. Thomas born 1776-94, head of a Hertford Co. household of 4 “free colored” in 1820 [NC:186] and 5 in 1830.

vi. Nancy born 1788 ,married Jethro Martin 8 October 1806 Gates Co. bond, (her brother) Jacob Robbins bondsman.

vii. Patience Robbins born 1763 was among 8 members of the family named as buyers of 30 acres near the old Indian patent line on 1 August 1782 [DB A-2:33] She was mother of I. Judith who was living in Chowan co. on 15 May 1820 when she sold land in Gates co. known by the name of Indian Town which was descended to her from her mother[DB 10:523]

viii. Sarah Robbins born 1766, was head of a Gates Co. household of 2 “other free” in 1800 [NC: 276], 4 in 1810 [NC:342],and 10 “free colored” in 1820 [NC:155] She was a mother of i. James born 1784, 10 yr old son of Sarah Robbins bound apprentice house carpenter and jointer to William Lewis in Gates Co. in feb 1794. He and john Robbins were called “Indian or Molatto Boys” when they were bound to Henry Leee in Feb 1796 after William Lewis ‘death [Founts, Minutes of County Court,Gates Co., I:6,53] ii. Sealy married James Reed, 25 October 1808 Gates Co. bond,JamesLassiter bondsman

7. Mary Robbins born 1768 was living in Gates Co. in May 1798 when the court bound her 12 yr old son jethro to Richard Rawis to learn house carpentry [Founts,Minutes of County Court,gates Co., I:97] Her son was i. Jethro born 1780

8. Thaney Robbins born 1765 was living in Gates Co. in feb 1794 when the court bound her son Charles as an apprentice cooper to William Hinton of Indian Neck [Fouts ,Minutes of County Court, Gates Co.,I:6] She received her part of the division of 30 acres in Gates Co., formerly called Indian Town, on 20 August 1821 [DB11:40]Her children were: i. John born 10 August 1782 bound apprentice house carpentry and jointer to William Lewis in Feb 1794 by gates Co. court. He may have been the John Robbins that married Mary Ann Weaver,”free persons of Color”, 1816 Norfork County bond, Robert Barrett surety. He was head of household of 7 :free colored” in Gates Co. 1820 ii. Charles born abt 1787

Members of the Robbins family of Virginia were:

i. Maison, head of a St. George’s Parish, Accomack Co. household of one :other free” and 2 slaves in 1800 [Virginia Genealogist 2:161]

ii. Isaac ,head of an Accomack Co. household of 4 “other free” and one slave in 1810 [Va:52]

iii. Kate, head of a Accomack Co. household of one “other free” in 1810 [Va:8]

iv. Abraham, head of Free Town, Brunswick Co. household of one “other free” in 1810 [Va: 770]

v. Adam head of a Free Town ,Brunswick Co. household of one “other free” in 1810 [Va: 770]


Hiter/Hoyter Family

Thomas Hilter/Hoyter born say 1700, was one of the “Chief men of the Chowan Indians” who sold thousands of acres in Chowan County by a total of thirteen deeds signed between 9 January 1733 and 22 November 1734[Chowan DB W-1,215,216,237-239,247-253] Another member of the tribe James Bennett, petitioned the General Assembly on 14 March 1745 complaining that Thomas Hoyter and John Robbin sold land they had no right to sell [Saunders,Colonial records of NC, IV:802]Thomas Hilter descendants were probably

i. Elizabeth head of Currituck co. household of 5 “other free” in 1790 [NC:21} and 4 in 1810 [NC:89]

ii Abraham head of Currituck Co. household of 6 “other free in 1800 [NC:149 and 3 in 1810 [NC:89] He leased 15 acres in Currituck Co. from John Lindsey for one ear of corn per year on 13 Feb 1796 [DB: 8]

iii. John, head of Currituck Co. household of 3 “other free” in 1810 [NC:84
iv. Asa, head of P{asquotank Co. household of 8 “other free” in 1810 [NC:902]
v. John called John Haul Hilter in 1780 when the Pasquotank Co. court allowed him to be bound as an apprentice to Robert Pendleton to learn the trad of Shoemaker.
vi. Thomas born 1776

[Dreaminghawk]

quote >>1746-7 The Saponi moved from the Pumunkey River area of Virginia to the Flatt River
[ Old Thomas COLLINS sold land on Pumunkey River in 1747 and moved to the FLATT River]

I just want everyone on the forum to understand that this is where I live. It is said that you can pour out a bucket of water on certain hilltops and it will run into 3 different river basins.
Some will flow into Mayo Ck to Dan river to Roanoke river.
Some into Deep Ck to Flatt (Flat) river to Nuse (Neuse) river
Some into Allen Ck to Tar river. Study it on a map. It's a rather unique spot. The Saponi were returning to their homeland, and some of us stayed..... almost all of the names on the Saponi surname list live here today. In my Lunsford branch, my gggg was the baby of the family..... he got the homeplace (granted from Lord Granville in 1761..... I think.. don't have notes in front of me) all his many brothers and sisters went to Ky around 1840. Several other lines followed the same pattern..... my ancester stayed on the homeplace and the siblings went west.
I have good reason to believe this is the location of Adshusheer, although common belief puts it a little farther downriver on Flatt.

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

Dreaminghawk,

This piece of research was put together by a student of Professor Airy Dixon. He lives on Long Island NY with his family. He didn't want his address posted but I am still in communication with him.

I wanted to ask if you have any Collins connected to your Lunsfords? Meredith's first born son, Bradley Collins married Elizabeth Lunsford in Clay Co. Ky. Bradley Collins had four wives that I am aware of with Elizabeth being the fourth. They left Kentucky just ahead of the law and went to Missouri down river on a flattboat. They were in Missouri for a couple years but again got into some mischief and moved on to Iowa ( Appaloose Co.) Some say he died in Iowa and others say he went to Indiana where he lived with a relative before his death. I have never been able to verify either.

[Linda]

Is there an Apaloosa County in Iowa? I have one ancestor who some had said what born in Iowa, but it was determined later that sometimes in that day, people would abbreviate Indiana as Ia.

[Bill Childs]

The official abbreviation for Indiana was in fact "Ia." until (?) Iowa became a state.
Bill

[Bill Childs]

There's no Apaloosa Co., Iowa, but there is an Appanoose Co., Iowa, created in 1843, and located in southern Iowa on the Missouri border not quite half way across the state. County seat is Centerville, which might help you find it on a map.
Bill

[Dreaminghawk]

Brenda,
I have 2 possible matches for you. I'll give you what I have now and keep looking for more.
Elizabeth Glenn Lunsford was born in Va c1770 and died in Hopkins Co, Ky by 1849. She was married to Jesse Lunsford in Person co, NC. and joined her children in Ky when Jesse died. So she would have come to Ky as an older widow...... 60 in 1830 which is earliest she would be in Ky. Jesse and Elizabeth are my direct line. Their son, John stayed in Person co and married Sarah Davie. All John's siblings as well as most of John and Sarah's children went to Ky.
One of Elizabeth and Jesse's daughters was also named Elizabeth. I have very little on her so far. She was born c1810 to 1820. Married Allen Yancey. In Ky by 1830-1840.
btw....... the Lunsfords and Vaughns moved together. The other siblings and children were married either before or after move....... and they didn't all go together....but were continuously joined by other extended family members...... married to Tapp, Cozart, Strum, Davie, Moore, Vaughn, Yarborough ......

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

Here is what I have:

2. BRADLEY2 COLLINS (MERIDITH1) was born 1786 in NC, and died Aft. 1844 in Appanoose Co. ,IA. He married (1) JANE RAY 1817 in Orange Co. NC. He married (2) CATHERINE BARNEY July 28, 1831 in Clay Co. Ky. He married (3) BETSY GRIFFIN February 16, 1833 in Clay Co. Ky. He married (4) ELIZABETH LUNSFORD September 05, 1836 in Clay Co. KY.

Notes for BRADLEY COLLINS:
Text source: Shirley Collins Bobert......... bobert@panacom.com
*****************
Bradley Collins (1787-185?) was born in NC, possibly in Wilkes Co. He
was a farmer by occupation, but also followed other pursuits. He
migrated to Russell Co., VA, with his parents between 1796 and 1799.
About 1811, Bradley followed his father, Meredith, to Floyd Co., KY.

The Floyd Co. 1820 Census shows that Bradley, in addition to himself
and his wife, had one male and two females under the age of fourteen in
his household. The male was his son, Andrew. Later census records show
additional children. The name of his first wife is not yet known.

[Bradley COLLINS was my maternal great-great grandpa. This census is not
exactly correct, as there was one more son I know of: John, b. 1820
(suppose after the census was taken). Then was another son, Hiram, b.
1825 in KY. Hiram COLLINS was my maternal great-greandpa.]

About 1826[?], he (Bradley) moved to Clay Co., KY. While in Clay Co.,
Andrew married Betsy Ann Sizemore, Mar.. 31, 1838. He sold his land in
1839, and shortly afterwards, he and his family, Andrew and his wife and
son, Lewis, traveled by flat boat down the Kentucky and Ohio Rivers to
Missouri. They were in Carroll Co., MO, in 1840, but later settled
near Keytesville, Chariton Co., MO. It was here that Bradley received a
land grant in May of 1841. Bradley and Andrew raised and sold crops of
corn, cotton, and tobacco.

About 1844, Bradley and Andrew sold their land in Missouri, and moved to
Centerville, Appanoose Co., Iowa, on the Chariton River. They farmed in
addition to running a ferry across the Chariton River. Andrew (1811-ca.
1873) was living in 1850 in Appanoose Co., Iowa Census, with his family,
Betsy Ann (wife). Lewis, Samson, Archibald, and Polly Ann, and his
father Bradley, age 63, born in North Carolina.


[this next para is very interesting to me since I was born in Hancock
Co., IL. I have searched extensively there and have not found any trace
of these particular COLLINSes of mine - but I continue to search. If
anyone would have known about Bradley and Andrew being in Hancock Co.,
my mother would have - she never talked of/mentioned this at all.]

Bradley died in either Appanoose Co., Iowa, or Hancock Co., Illinois.
About 1856, Andrew moved to Warsaw, Hancock Co., IL, where Polly Ann,
his daughter, attended her first year in school. About 1859, Andrew
moved to Marion Co., MO. The 1860 Census shows the following additional
family members: Eliza, age 9, and Eli, age 5. They were both born in
Iowa. Andrew and Betsy's sons, Samson, Lewis, and Archibald were
veterans of the Civil War.

[Derek]

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