I am descended from Thompsy Posting/Posten and David Collins

[reta hare]

my Jones Collins line: I am descended from Thompsy Posting/Posten, born 1750 died 1810, married 1772 to David Collins born 1750, died 1832. Their son Isaiah "Cuppy" Collins born 3-10-(1788?) in Wikes Co., N.C. died 11-20-1885 in Ozark County, Mo. married Nov. 20, 1805 in Granger County,Tenn to Elizabeth Mason born 1787 in N.C. died 1830 in Ozark County, Mo. Their daughter Phoebe Collins born 1814 in Knox County, Ky. married on 2-18-1830 in Martinsville, Morgan, Indiana to William Jones born 1807 in Kentucky died in 1861 in Ozark County, Mo. they moved to Ozark County, Mo. in 1840. Their son George W. Jones born 1834 in Martinsville, Morgan County, Ind. died 11-14-1863 in Camp Morton, Indianapolis, Indiana as a confederate prisoner of the Civil War he was in 1st Calvary of Missouri, married in 1854 to Jane Collins born 1839 in Kentucky. Their son Hiram Jones born July 1860 in Douglas County, Mo., died Jan-Feb.1904 in Claiborne township, Izard County, Arkansas buried in Jones Cemetery on Jones mountain in Claiborne township, married in 1877 in Missouri to Mary 'Elizabeth' Hicks. Their daughter Samatha Jones born 3-26-1895 in Izard County, Arkansas died 1-17-1973 in Jonesboro, Craighead County, Ar. married 3-31-1912 Izard County, Ar. Lee 'Roy' Hancock born 10-15-1892 in Mississippi died 3-29-1968 Harrisburg, Poinsett, Arkansas. Their son, my father Floyd Thomas Otto Hancock born Twin Creek, Izard, Arkanas (still living) married my mother Lora Jean Deckelman born in Scott Township near Harrisburg, Poinsett, Arkansas(still living). Their daughter Reta Gail Hancock born Harrisburg, Poinsett, Ar. (still living) married 11-29-1968 to Jimmie Lincoln Walls born 11-14-1946 died 5-12-1990 in Whitehall Community, Poinsett, Arkansas in a house fire.

[reta hare]

Hello this is only my 2nd post, don't know what I'm doing yet. my family line has John k. Jones born 1750 in Kentucky, an article I has him born 1776/69 in Colony, Laurel, Ky. he married to Orpha Gibson before 1790. I have them married around 1788/89. He died in 1811 in Knox County, Kentucky. Some of the Ancestry.com trees have he died in 1821 in Rutherford, N.C. and his parents were Benjamin Jones born 1715-died 1778 and Amy Parrish born 1725-died 1778. I have not verified this. My Orpha Gibson my be the daughter of Major Gibson. in an article on Mulungeons stated tax record show him a FPC, a free mulatto. None of my family on this side are very dark, but this was centuries back. Does any one have any information on any of them to help me, please? Thank you for any help you can give. All so my great grand mother Mary "Elizabeth" Hicks was Indian, I don't know what tribe, possibly Cherokee? how can I find out. She was born in 1860 in Missouri died in Oct./Nov. 1935 in Izard Co., Arkansas of a stroke and married in 1877 in Mo. to Hiram Jones born 1863 in Douglas County, Missouri. He died in Jan-Feb.1904 of possibly T.B. According to my father and his sisters, who remember visiting with their grandmother when they were children, great grandma Elizabeth (she was known as Elizabeth or Bethie) had long black straight hair, she not very dark and she did not speak very good english, it was hard for them to understand her. When I was about 14, I remember a group of Indian people coming from Oklahoma to see my grandmother Samatha (Elizabeth's daughter) wanting to get information from her to take back to Oklahoma to put on file. They said they were her family, at first she would not talk to them, she was afraid, I don't know why, grandma wouldn't talk about it, (her daughters told us a little). They would not leave until they talked with her, she agreed and they talked with her all day long for 3 1/2 days then left.

[Linda]

Welcome Reta. Thanks for posting all this. I put both your posts into the same thread. Hope I didn't lose anything.

You have quite a number of familiar names. I'm not saying this proves anything, but Collins is one of the few names ascribed to tribal Saponi. Some Collins were chased out of a county in VA (or was it NC) for firing some woods (getting them ready to plant as they always had). When the Saponi were at Ft Christanna in Brunswick County, VA the white settler living near them was a Hicks. That names comes up often among descendants. Gibson is another name that can be traced to some tribal Saponi. Knox County, KY is a common place for Saponi descendants to have settled. Not sure where you are in MO, but the Mahenip's Band are there, full of Collins, you may want to contact them. Haithcock (Hancock possibly a variant) is another common name in these circles, as is Jones. A number of folks with the same surnames as you have are in Ohio, with several tribal groups around.

I suppose all this could be coincidence, but it doesn't seem as likely as the possibility that you're tied in with all this.

If you'll use the search feature above on your family names, you'll see what I'm talking about.

[reta hare]

Linda, thank you for answering me. I don't know where in Missouri my Hicks was born. Grandpa Hiram Jones that she married was born and grew up in Douglas County, Mo it is about in the middle of southern Misssouri, Ava is the county seat. 1860 census he was in Falling Springs Township, Douglas Co. He was in Texas County also on 1870 census, possibly they moved after their father died in civil war in 1863 also mother last my was now Jane Chaney (her maiden name was Collins, daughter of John and Margaret Collins), but no husband was listed. I don't know where he met grandma Elizabeth Hicks they married in 1877 in Mo. A lot of Collins females married Jones males in this family and most of them it looks like can be traced back thru Knox County, Kentucky and North Carolina. All your information was welcome and helpful. Do you know what year the Collins were in Ft. Christanna in Brunswick county, Va.?

[Linda]

Here's a quote from an old thread here on the forum, "The Collins Name"


The NA Collins were ordered out of Orange Co. Va in the court case in 1742 where several Indians were arrested and brought before the court and charged with stealing hogs and burning the woods . These Indians moved across the border into Granville Co. NC which later became Orange Co. NC. In the beginning of the 1750's they lived on the Flatt River and it appears the head of the family was Thomas Collins who was the father of several sons, Thomas Jr 1728, Joseph 1730,Samuel 1732,John 1734,George 1736 and Elisha 1738. From these sons come the many descendants of today's Collins line. Thomas Collins Story

You'll have lots of reading to do if you use the search button above for the name, "Collins." Not to mention all the rest of your names.

I don't believe there's any surviving surname recorded at Ft. Christanna. Those records there are came a bit later.

[reta hare]

Linda, Thank your so much for this information. I checked the search above on Collins, you are wonderful and it will be a lot of reading that I will very much enjoy. Thank you again, this is very helpful. And thank you to everyone that posted all your wonderful information in the past and present. Reta Hare

[Sean C]

My father was adopted,his biological father was Everson Collins born 1916 in Scott County,VA.Everson's parents were Hugh and Nettie Hall Collins; Hugh's parents were John and Margaret Collins.John was born about 1862 in Virginia. Can't find much on this family all that I have is from census records.
I also have had my y-chromosome dna tested and what came up was that I'm closely related to several Collins families from Kentucky and Tennessee. There's just a handful of us and we all share the dys390 marker value of 20 which is rare in any haplogroup.
There's been speculation that we descend from Moorish Portuguese or Spanish that married into Native American tribes.