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collins
03-26-2001, 10:36 AM
Does anyone know of any sites that discuss or show the material or historical culture of the Eastern Woodland and Piedmont Siouan cultures?

Linda
03-27-2001, 08:38 AM
We've got a little stuff on our main site, www.winwinworld.net/SaponiTown/ (http://www.winwinworld.net/SaponiTown/) , but this is a good question. We need to start collecting links that we've all found so we can put them up on the main site for each other and anyone who surfs by.

collins
04-04-2001, 09:43 AM
Mecou, I have been reading a book by James Mooney called The Southeastern Siouans. In it is described a nice array of tid bits concerning spiritual beliefs, etc... One of them that I found very interesting was the mention that Pawpaw wood was used to start the sacred fires before ceremony. My father always used to tell me this and I didn't remember it until I was reading it from Mooney. What a suprise. I do not know if I am posting this on the right slot. If not sorry, I'll do better next time. Also if you want you can go to the Pawpaw Foundation on the web and get some good links or info. The flowers are mezmerizing, very pretty.

Linda
04-04-2001, 10:02 AM
Is that book still in print? I imagine it's not.

Posting here is fine. The topics are just there to help, I don't believe in worrying if they're strictly adhered to.

collins
04-04-2001, 09:56 PM
This book was inter-library from The University of Arizona. It goes to some one in Illinoise next so it must be a hot item right now. I am taking notes on it and will share this when I get it together. Give me a few weeks to digest. To let you know I am also going to be continueing this inter-library loan thing becuase until recently I did not have access to one.

Linda
04-04-2001, 10:56 PM
Plenty of Indian research books by James Mooney at the local university library, but none by that title. I guess we'll just have to wait for your book report.

xinde
06-10-2001, 11:27 AM
GREETINGS I'M MAKING SOME SMALL MAYBE NOT SO SMALL CONNECTIONS....SHARDY...YOU MENTION PAWPAW WOOD THAT IS USED TO START THE SACRED FIRES...IT MAY NOT MEAN A THING OR IT MAY BUT MY GRANDFATHER...WHOSE BOTH PARENTS WERE 1/2 INDIAN...WAS CALLED...PAWPAW...HE AND HIS FATHER BEFORE HIM WERE BOTH CARPENTERS...I LIKE KNOWING NOW THAT PAWPAW IS A SPECIAL WOOD...MAKES THE MOST PERFECT SENSE TO ME........XINDE

collins
10-10-2005, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by shardy
Mecou, I have been reading a book by James Mooney called The Southeastern Siouans. In it is described a nice array of tid bits concerning spiritual beliefs, etc... One of them that I found very interesting was the mention that Pawpaw wood was used to start the sacred fires before ceremony. My father always used to tell me this and I didn't remember it until I was reading it from Mooney. What a suprise. I do not know if I am posting this on the right slot. If not sorry, I'll do better next time. Also if you want you can go to the Pawpaw Foundation on the web and get some good links or info. The flowers are mezmerizing, very pretty.


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I was confusing to books that I had been reading and got the titles slightly mixed. Here are the corrections.

The Southeastern Indians by Charles M. Hudson

and

The Siouan Tribes Of The East by James Mooney


Sorry for the mix up. I have a copy of The Siouan Tribes Of The East by James Mooney.

Also I think I sent you a list way back then of books related to the Southeastern Siouans. If not let me know and I will post it.

Linda
10-10-2005, 03:28 PM
It might be good to post that list again for the newcomers

collins
10-11-2005, 08:56 AM
Encyclopedia of American Indian Costume

The Tuscarora

The South Eastern Indians by Charles Hudson

The Catawbas by James H. Merrell

The Catawba Indians: People of the River by Douglas S. Brown

North American Indians by Alice Kehoe

Tutelo Spirit Adoption Ceremony; Reclothing The Living In The Name Of The Dead by Frank G. Speck

The Tutelo Tribe and Language by Horatio Hale

Tutelo Rituals on Six Nations Reserve

Completing The Circle: The Haithcock Indian Blood by Brian Everett

The Indians of the Southeastern United States by John Reed Swanton

Indians of North America --- Southern States ISBN 087474895x

Indian Wars In North Carolina, 1663-1763

Many Nations Under That Name

The Powhatan Indians of Virginia by Helen C. Roundtree

The Cultural Consequence of the Carolina Piedmont by Joffre L. Coe edited by James b. Griffin Chicago Press, 1952

The Siouan Tribes of the East by James Mooney

Catawba Nation by Hudson

A New Voyage To Carolina by John Lawson and edited by Hugh Talmage Leffer

The Formative Cultures of the Carolina Piedmont by Joffre L. Coe Transactions of the American Philosophical Society vol.54, pt.5(1964) Willey, American Archaeology, (265-266)

The Indians New World: Catawbas and their Neighbors 1540-1850 by James Merrell

Excavating Occaneechi Town edited by R.P. Stephen Davis Jr. and H. Trawick Ward, Patrick Lovingood, and Vincas P. Steponaitis

The Handbook of the North American Indians (vol.15) and (vol. on the Southeast) edited by William C. Sturtevant

Back issues of American Indian Culture and Research Journal published by UCLA

The History and Present State of Virginia edited by Louis B. Wright by Robert Beverley 1947 UNC Press

Archeology of Eastern United States edited by James B. Griffin Unv. Chicago Press 1952

John Clayton's 1687 Account of the Medicinal Practices of the Virginia Indians by John Clayton and notes by Bernard Hoffman

The Virginia Indian in Pictures, 1612-1624 by Christian F. Feest (The Smithsonian Journal of History(1967))

Southeastern Indians: Life Portraits: A Catalogue of Pictures 1564-1860 (1991) by Emma Lila Fundaburk

Cockacoeske, Queen of Pamunkey: Diplomat and Suzeraine. In Powhaten's Mantle: Indians in Colonial Southeast by P.H. Wood, G.A. Waselkov, M.T. Hutley, U of Nebraska Press (1989)

Tributary Indians in Colonial Virginia by W. Stitt Jr. Robinson Virginia Magazine of History and Biography 67 (1959):49-64

Indian Education and Missions in Colonial Virginia Journal of Southern History 18 (1952):152-168

Cultural Diversity Amoung Aborignal Cultures of Coastal Virginia and North Carolina Repr.ed.(Evolution of North American Indians, Vol.I) Garland, 1991 by Lewis Binford

The Use of Soapstone by the Indians of the Eastern United States by David I. Bushnell Jr. (1940) Smithsonian Annual Report 1939 pg. 471-489

A Ceramic Study of Virginia Archeology by Clifford Evans (Smithsonian Institution, Bureau of American Ethnology, Bulletin 160) Washington D.C. 1955. Section by C.G. Holland on projectile piont classification

Powhatan Foreign Relations, 1500-1722 by Helen C. Roundtree

Southeastern Indians in Virginia: Four Centuries in Limbo. The Chesapiean 10 (1):2-7, 1972

The Virgina Indians in the Seventeenth Century by Charles C. Willoughly. American Anthropologist, N.S. (9):57-86, 1907

Archeological Investigation of the Shannon Site, montgomery County , VA: (VA State Library Publication, no.32)1969 by Joseph L Benthall

An Archeological Survey of Southwest Virginia by C.D. Holland (Smithsonian Contributions to Anthropology, no.12) Washington D.C. 1970

Almost White by Brewton Berry

Colonial Virginia-Spotswood Indian Policy by Richard L. Morton

Virginia Eastern Shore by Ralph T. Whitelaw

Indians in Seventeenth Century Virginia by Ben C. McCary

Kegley's Virginia Frontier by Frederick Kegley

The American Indian in North Carolina by Douglas L. Rights

Dividing Line Histories by William Byrd edited by William K. Boyd

A History of Orange County, Virginia by William W. Scott

Susquehanna's Indians by Barry C. Kent

Indian Island in Amherst County by Peter Houck and Mintcy Maxham

The Virginia Frontier, 1754-1763 by Louis K. Koontz

1897-Federal Senate Document #144 54th Congress dated 1897 Dealing with the Catawba Tribe of Indians Hon. Eli S. Parker Comissioner Indian Affairs Washington D.C.

Occaneechi Saponi & Tutelo of the Saponi Nation a Tribal History by Richardl. & Vicki L. Haithcock

Tribes That Slumber Indians of the Tennessee Region by Thomas M.N. Lewis and Madeline Kneberg Lewis

Migration Legend of the Creeks by Gatschel

First Nations, First Contacts by King, J.C.H.

techteach
10-11-2005, 11:23 AM
A couple of these sources are available online, I believe. I found a Hale source on a Canadian site and I printed off something with Tutelo rituals in it a while back, if people want to search this web site for the URLs.

Techteach

Tom
10-13-2005, 06:10 PM
here's a nice link to start with;
www.freestateofpatrick.com/nah.htm