BlackfootRelatives???

[Swiwiti Woliwi]

I would first like to thank you for your time and help with the questions I asked regarding my ancestors. I haven't had much luck going back further than my natural grandparents Odell Lane and Dorothy Jennings, on my dad's side and Dewey Spivey and Lillian Williams on my mom's side. I do know that somewhere in the mix I have Cherokee and Blackfoot Indian in me. I want so much to find out how and who from so I can pass the Native cultures of not only the cherokee but the blackfoot as well. Yes my SN is Native it is Cherokee for spirit wolf I have visited cherokee NC and I love it there. I would like to visit a blackfoot rez as well but need the background info first. If anyone can help me trace back to how I have blackfoot in me I would appreciate it very much. Thanks again for your time and help
Rhonda Lane
Swiwiti Woliwi
Ps I now live in Indiana to answer your question about that.

[Linda]

Hey Rhonda, glad you found your way here. Could you re-state the info about your family, surnames with places, dates, as much as you have, so the genealogy buffs around can hear that?

We were at what was the reservation for the Saponi today. I believe the Blackfoot was one of the groups there. But nobody's lived on that reservation for 275 years. I'm afraid it's not so easy to physically connect, but they're noisy ancestors and have their ways, nonetheless, of making their point.

[Swiwiti Woliwi]

ok I've done some intense research and apparently all of relatives go back to the Lane side of the family. Apparently my 5th great grandparents were Corbin Lane and Frances (Prock) Proctor. They had 11 children. Samuel And Catherine Temperance were two of those children. Samuel went on to create generations of Lanes. Catherine married James (Big Jim) Williams. They had 11 children. Two of them being Abraham Mark Williams and Rial Martin Williams. Both of these brothers married two Lark sisters Mahala Lark and Matilda Lark. Abraham and Mahala had 8 children, a daughter being Martha, who married William A Spivey Jr. among their children was a son named John M. Spivey who married Disea Ervin and had William Benton Spivey who married Clara Etta Templeton, who had my grandfather, Dewey Hampton Spivey. Rial Martin Williams and Matilda Lark had 11 children, one being William Milburn Williams who married Myrtle Eliza And had my Grandmother, Lillian Marie Williams.

[Linda]

Lane is a name associated with known Saponi families, so is Williams. I know I've heard the name Jennings among VA native descended people, though I don't know how it might tie in.

You said these people were in TN and WV? That's a very common location for Blackfoot identified people. Do you know any of the counties involved?

So, your family appears to fit in with what I theorize about the Blackfoot ID being a marker for Saponi (Eastern Siouan of the VA/NC Piedmont) origins. TN/WV are frequent locations for people with this ID.

Have you seen the article on the main page by Crystal Rose about Fort Christanna and the one I wrote about The Other Blackfoot? You're not going to have ready access to an existing tribe like there is with the Cherokee. The Eastern Siouan were being Anglicized in the 1720's, and their economic independence pretty much destroyed in the 1670s.

A large chunk of the traditional people went up north. They remained Indians, being adopted into the Six Nations, but eventually the descendants were adopted as Cayuga and other tribes. Some culture's been retained, but there's been a lot of blending. The language is just about extinct. A lot of the songs and dances survived, but are now usually identified as Six Nations songs and dances.

A lot of people escaped into Appalachia. I think they were going for the freedom the secluded mountain life could give them, but over time, their culture merged in with the settlers. Those Blackfoot communities in Appalachia likely were dressing and living like white frontier people pretty early on. It's hard to say. Sometimes I hear little details that seem like people were living a more Indian lifestyle, but more often it seems like they were more like a subculture within the frontier culture. Often they seem to have stuck together and there was a community.

If you want to get back in touch with the original culture, join the crowd. That's something we're all trying to get a sense of. There's no definitive source. It's just a matter of what we all can research, and, if we keep the right attitude, maybe some inspiration from those Ancestors makes it through.

[TuckahoePrincess]

Hello there from a fellow Hoosier! Sorry, I can't help you-- I have the exact same vague heritage... Cherokee/Shawnee/Blackfoot-- we all have it. Plus, I've got the oral history of being Tuckahoe mixed in there.... I just thought I would say hello and welcome you!

TuckahoePrincess

[sammarroq]

A large chunk of the traditional people went up north. They remained Indians, being adopted into the Six Nations, but eventually the descendants were adopted as Cayuga and other tribes. Some culture's been retained, but there's been a lot of blending. The language is just about extinct. A lot of the songs and dances survived, but are now usually identified as Six Nations songs and dances.

A lot of people escaped into Appalachia. I think they were going for the freedom the secluded mountain life could give them, but over time, their culture merged in with the settlers. Those Blackfoot communities in Appalachia likely were dressing and living like white frontier people pretty early on. It's hard to say. Sometimes I hear little details that seem like people were living a more Indian lifestyle, but more often it seems like they were more like a subculture within the frontier culture. Often they seem to have stuck together and there was a community.

If you want to get back in touch with the original culture, join the crowd. That's something we're all trying to get a sense of. There's no definitive source. It's just a matter of what we all can research, and, if we keep the right attitude, maybe some inspiration from those Ancestors makes it through.


Well said Linda; nice post.

Shirley

[1_optimistic]

Welcome!

I too have been told that I descend from Cherokee and Blackfoot but it's possible that the correct ID is probably Saponi and/or Blackfoot Saponi (Siouan Nation).

Good luck with your search!

[Tonio]

I know that the Piscatoway tribe has MANY tribal members with the sirname proctor. That's a very big family. I used to live on the same block with the Proctors that where tribal members of the Piscatoway tribe. Many of them live in the Southern Maryland area. They're a well known family in the Southern Maryland/Chesapeake bay area. Check out their web-site.

[Ben Banks]

My 4xgreatgrandmother was Lucy "Bearpaw" Proctor. Her father was Joseph Proctor. Supposedly he was form the Maryland area. He was black, Piscatawney, and white. What is the website for this family that you referred to in your thread. I've been trying to research this family for quite a while. Sincerely, Ben Banks.

[Tonio]

****The lady that you maybe looking for is Natalie Proctor (I'm not too sure), but I'm sure if you call the Piscatoway Nation directly they'll put you in touch with someone that can be of more assistance. Anyway here's an article on the Piscatoway Nation. I hope it can help you****








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****Here's the entire story****

www.bayweekly.com/year03/<WBR>issuexi47/leadxi47.html (http://www.bayweekly.com/year03/issuexi47/leadxi47.html)

[Deirdre]

The Proctors are a well known DC areea family. My doctor is a Proctor.