Racism broadcasted on airwaves!!!!!!!

[Ga-Nc Collins]

Anyone that does not know by now.....radio station G105 in raleigh NC's dj spent 15 minutes non stop stateing every kind of racist native American slang and sterotype I have heard anyone say in one sitting......even went as far as to call the Lumbee tribe inbreds.....it is more stuff than I can type here!!!!

EVERYONE needs to go to the news station nbc 17's website and watch the news broadcast from today.

You can also go here and listen to the entire thing....be warned you will be very mad once you hear it....don't say I did not warn you.

http://www.djforge.com/audio/showgram.mp3 (http://www.djforge.com/audio/showgram.mp3)


send messages to the station send complaints to the fcc....do whatever to let these people know we are a strong united nation and are not going to take this kind of crap.

the radio station has a apology posted on their website right now but it is such a short and going no where apology that you can clearly see how it is NOT a apology.

Pass this information to everyone you know and lets LET THEM know WE are not going to allow this.

http://www.djforge.com/audio/showgram.mp3 (http://www.djforge.com/audio/showgram.mp3)
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[yellow woman]

That was just way beyond the height of ignorance. Sad, sad stuff ....

[roca]

Just finished hearing it.It's racist trash!

Roca

[beeleaf]

Unbelievable.

Here is the station's web site and the apology...at least I think this is that apology. Hard to tell.
http://www.g105.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=113050&article=3499708

[yellow woman]

Thanks beeleaf, looks like a lame brush off to me .... I could go to a real bad place on this one but I don't want to get into the negative side of things today. I guess their come around hasn't bit them yet? .....

[beeleaf]

Know what ya mean, yellow woman. Hard to stay positive while listening to such.

My hope is that something like this can turn into a positive thing---like, if it brings NC Native peoples together...or, both Carolinas and Virginia...or all the southeastern tribes...but, wait, they offended other peoples as well. Maybe they will become aware of just how many people that is. And we will thank them for that opportunity. ;~)

[Ga-Nc Collins]

they currently only got 3 days paid vacation.

Them three dj's have been making racist remarks to all people for along time....it's about time they are fired.

If anyone ever did that at any other job they would be fired on the spot and the employer could be facing a huge lawsuit by all the other workers.

All the Nc tribes are working together to get the three dj's fired. Me and many other people have filed fcc complaints and have messaged all the advertisers and informed the advertisers that a boycott may be in the future if they continue to be associated with a racist company like G105.

I've even contacted the Naacp and Aim to let them know the deal with this radio station. I also contacted every news station in Georgia, Nc, Sc, and Va about what the radio station has done.

The apology they have on the site is not a apology....it's like some brush off type thing lol None of the tribes in Nc accepted the apology and are still working to get the dj's fired.....the radio station did not even talk to any of the tribes personally....they just made a radio broadcast that was like a 10 second apology that did not name anyone in the apology lol

[Ga-Nc Collins]

http://news14.com/Default.aspx?ArID=594668

There is some more news coverage

[beeleaf]

and have messaged all the advertisers

Ga-Nc Collins, I had got to wondering if that might have happened yet.

The apology looks like something they may just pop onto the site whenever these folks offend people. Very generic. Am not buying that they don't condone the behavior, if it has happened before and the DJs still work there.

[Greydove]

Osiyo All Just finished listening to this rediculous airing of stupidity~~Geez~~could those guys be any more crude?? They were so busy cracking up at themselves it was pathetic. Like you inferred yellow woman, what goes around comes around. If I had been the lady who was to marry the Lumbee Indian man, I would've walked out and told those guys where they could stick their idiotic comments on the way out. What a crock!!! I still can't understand people with that mind-set in this day and age. What the hxxx are they thinkin?~~Obviously, they are not. Just thought I'd put in my opinion. Agree totally with you'all~~Blessings, Greydove~^~

[yellow woman]

Good morning friends. Well some how those links have made it onto my space.com. A little bird told me this. Hey cousin Dove, that come around is sneaking up on them. :)] .... Its like the old ones said; Once those bad words are out there you an never take them back.... And so it goes and there it went .... Later !!!!....

[Ed Yancey]

The persons on this particular radio broadcast are sick and ignorant at best and need to be removed from the airwaves permanently. There appears to be no apology from them and the management statement would be funny if the incident was not so serious.
I know nothing about the young woman who was to be the bride of the Lumbee man but if I were standing in his shoes I would have been offended by her lack of response that should have let it be known the subject matter was off limit and not acceptable. Maybe as an intern whe was somewhat threatened under the circumstances but I couldn't think of a better reason for telling the three ignoramuses' to take this job and shove it.
I listened to public remarks that not only were racial and abusive but other statements that made insulting if not down right crude in sexual nature about the young woman's character. Maybe many people today aren't concerned about character today but I am. I used to believe if a lady was insulted by such a crude behavior, if she was a lady no one could set such behavior than the lady herself. It wouldn't have done for me to have been her father or brother !
There is no apology good enough to make up in any way the gross filth these individuals were spilling out and I would have to conclude they must know their audience well and intend to continue to give them such "high, noble, and inteligent" entertainment ! There are laws on the books and wherever human decency still exist. Ed Yancey

[beeleaf]

Lumbee Tribal site has some ideas and addresses, if anyone wishes to voice their concern:

http://www.lumbeetribe.com/

[collins]

Wasn't there a radio show in Florida that had a similar incident about two or three months ago?
Could have been last fall.

What was really disturbing was that the host kept making comment that Indians don't go and work in peoples' homes and therefore are lazy. How ludicrise is that? What were they thinking?
Not only were they spouting racial drival, but they were completly insulting their intern and her fiance, whom they had never met.

I would be amazed if they didn't get fired after the Imus incident. I wonder if anyone has talked to the Anti-Defemation League?

[Mousini78]

This is just my opinion....when I first heard about this I shook my head and I was hoping most folks would let it die a natural death. But, by posting it all over the internet and emailing and broadcasting it everywhere.....the public has played into their hands...they have more publicity and more listeners now than they did before.

That plus the fact that the thread starter joined and the only posts are this........it has just fueled the fire. You can't change people that are this way...the best thing is to just let it roll off your back....like fat jokes, blonde jokes, pollock jokes...and so many more categories too numerous to mention.

[collins]

If this incident had been a one liner I may have agreed that it wouldn't merit attention, however the racist tirade went on for 30 minutes. If we become so thick skinned that we refuse to become outraged at anything then I think maybe we loose our sense of humanity.

Do we have a choice of turning off a radio station so we do not have to listen to it? Sure, but at the same time are the airwaves considered public domaine and in a sense our own?

If they can fire Imus for a one or two liner and fire Howard Stern for all his vitriol, plus fining various radio and T.V. station for their unwise uses of the airwaves, then what makes the radio station in North Carolina so special that they can vent racially for 30 minutes and we just say, oh well we need to grow a thicker skin, or we should just ignore it this time. What about next time or the time after that? When does it cross the line and for what group of people being vented against?

The Germans in WWII sure did use the "we didn't know what was going on" defense when they knew full well the plans of the Nazis from the get go. They just decided to grow thick skins and not rock the boat and 6 million people were murder in the camps. This issue is a far cry from that piont, but I make it to show that if we accept hate speech on publically regulated airwaves then we begin a slow decline into tolerating racial attitudes that can lead to violence.

Saying nothing may actually be a way of condoning the actions and inabiling future ones.

[Ga-Nc Collins]

That plus the fact that the thread starter joined and the only posts are this........it has just fueled the fire. You can't change people that are this way...the best thing is to just let it roll off your back....like fat jokes, blonde jokes, pollock jokes...and so many more categories too numerous to mention.

I've been signed up for awhile now but have been having problems posting :)

[Dreaminghawk]

It's not really a matter of having thick skin but rather an issue of choosing your battles. Becky and I have been fighting these battles for more than 50 years. Anger and outrage at racism and other idiocies has long since given way to stoic indifference to the little things..... and this tasteless "comedic" tirade is a little thing. Becky and I are much more concerned by Va/NC non-federally recognized tribes who look down their noses at mixed bloods and don't want us to dance..... or don't want some of our friends to dance because their skin tone is too dark. These are the types of injustices that we will continue to expend our energy and emotions on.

[Ga-Nc Collins]

I'm right there with you DreamingHawk.

I'm currently working on the idea of putting together a group that will be for all the East coast Siouan tribe's ancestors......something for all the people that currently can not be allowed membership to their ancestor's tribes when they are just as much part of the tribes as the current members.........something where we can throw our own events.....something where we would never ever seek out federal or state recognition...something that does not hold boundries between states.....
something where blood ammount never becomes a re part of anything......the way I see it is....if a person's ancestors was part of a tribe then thats their heritage and they have just as much right to be part of that heritage.

Skin color does not tell you who a person is...their ancestors does.....where a person lives does not tell a person who they are...their ancestors do......remove a single ancestor from a person's family tree and that person would no longer exist.......now that is REAL native American tradition.....and thats how a person preserves the native american culture truely.

I'm 1/16th Cherokee on my mom's side but I have not found a cherokee tribe that I'm able to meet enrollment requirements to (except for this one which allows any tribe desendant to join but it costs 40 a yr)......my dad is between 1/2-2/3 ( he claims 2/3 andhe can pass for full) Saponi, Catawba, Mehhrrin...and maybe some creek in there (I have not been able to find the creek as of yet but there is some women in the family tree which there is no last name for...historical societies have even tried to find the last names with no luck).......but guess what.....not a single Saponi, Catawba, or Mehhrrin tribe has accepted my enrollment (they each have something in their enrollment which keeps me out or they will say their enrollment is closed).........my families are well documented just as well as everyone else that is here on this board.....Vardy Collin's father is my great great great great great great uncle.......and Parker Jeffries's mother is my great great great great great grandfather's sister.....and the list goes on and on ya know.......everyone on this message board knows who they are.......we all know more about the East coast tribe's history more than just about anyone else......everyone on this message board has full documentation to back up where our ancestors belong.........but now here is the big question.....how many tribes have actually accepted us into our rightful place among our ancestor's groups???

All of this has been adding up to me wanting to say screw all the crap.....there is far too many of us and it's time we give everyone a place to call home ya know........in my oppinion the East coast Siouan speakers was really all part of 2 nations...Saponi and Catawba.....now if you look deeper into it then you'll see that it was actually just one nation....because the Catawba and Saponi not only lived together many times but also married into each other's tribes......too me that says it's just all one big nation.....so it would actually be traditionally correct to call out selfs the East coast Siouan nation (or East coast sioux nation....I like that name better).

[Ga-Nc Collins]

Here is my view on the whole state and federal recogition thing....

I feel that whole thing is crap.......here is a prime example of proving it's crap.......ok what if everyone calling themself African American had to be part of a African tribe or something along that nature before they could be called African.........how many people do you think would be pissed if something like that happened in the African American community??

That whole thing does not work ya know.

Being part of a state or federally recognitized tribe does NOT prove a person's race........only a person's ancestors prove that.

Here is what state and federally recognition REALy is....it's having to do what the USA govt says.......people can search all the want thru records and they will never find a tribe ANYWHERE which had a tribe that was under USA control....not in the general sense........so going by State and Federal recognition rules and standards is actually a non traditional tribe way of life.....yet these groups are the first to claim they are for preserving their traditions..........in fact if you study historical tribe tradtion you will see that people with no native american blood at all was actually accepted into tribes.......thats true traditional ways........tribes never has had a thing to do with race.....until the year 1900......so yea the whole state and federal process stuff is European tradition...not native american tradition.........the whole thing about having to live in a certain county to be part of a tribe...once again non traditional ways....the Saponi tribe was known as a tribe which traveled to many places....they never truely stated in one place too long...in fact that goes for nearly any tribe.....a tribe would move to one place and if food ran low or if other tribes attacked them they would just move to a new location.....so why would tribes of today even say "you have to be from this county to be partof us"......it's not traditional..........once again lets go back to the whole state and federal thing.......to be state or federal you have to do what the USA government tells you......they decide who can or can not be a part of your tribe.......has anyone ever heard of a tribe which was told by someone without a single drop of native american blood telling a tribe who can or can not be part of their tribe??? The whole idea behind that is allowing a NON native american to become the chief of not just one tribe but ALL tribes which seek out state and federal recognition......defientlly 100 percent non tradition and a poor example of preserving the ancestor's traditions and history........I mean many many native americans have lost their lives to fight against this yet today sooo many think if a person does not allow a non native american tell them what to do then they are not native american.......it makes no sense.

A group that never seeks state or federal recognition is in my eyes....preserving their ancestor's traditions and history to the purest form.

I mean what does state recognition or federal reocgnition mean.....generally you get scholarships for schooling, medical, and maybe a check every so often..........here in my state we have that same thing and it's open for anyone...it's called the hope scholarship and the pell grant (both of which I was given and all I really had to do was finished high school)......then of course there is the free medical and check every so often......all I have to do for that is to just take a mental evaluation and get a docter saying I am Bi-Polar....then 6 months later I have free medical and a 500-600 dollar check every month (the first check will be about 3500-4000 dollars)...........also there is of course the army, navy, etc etc (however I'm not into the whole military thing)....join with them and you get the same exact thing......many of the tribes across the USA was part of the USA military...so I guess that could actually be considered tradition.......they will give you like 35,000 for college tuition, a check every month, tax free stuff from stores on the bases, you get free job training, a job after you get everything done, etc etc.

so I mean really...what exactly is state and federal recognition.......maybe get some land that no one else wants and that a person could buy themself for like 5,000 dollars.......alot of reservations look like 3rd world countries.....they are some of the poorest looking places in the USA (with the exception of some reservations that have a Casino on it).....

But yea..thats my whole view on state and federal recognition.....and it is why if I one day in the future do fully attempt to put together a group for the non accepted East coast Siouan descendants... I would make it clear that no state or federal recognition would ever ever be sought.

[Ga-Nc Collins]

I know i'm type alot lol but should make for good reading and mental stimulation hehehe

Ok here is my whole view on blood ammount type thing.

You can ask any tribal leader or anyone else for that matter to find a single treaty which listed blood ammount......they is not one ANYWHERE.

Every tribe that wants to add a blood ammount into their enrollment requirement will try and not let people know about this.

All treaties made between tribes and usa government was for the TRIBE (not race)....it was also for any and ALL descendants of the people that was part of them treaties......sucks that certain tribes will not tell you that lol

Here is a prime example to prove that the whole blood ammount does not work......Chief Mcintosh....he was the cheif of the lower creeks......he was half creek and half scottish.....thats 1/2......he signed over the land in order for land to be given to the creeks out in Oklahoma (then known as indian territory)......this was in the year 1832......ok now lets see how many generations back that would be.....lets say great great great great grandfather Chief Mcintosh.....thats 4 greats....should be close enough....ok lets thin the blood out some.....1/2 1/4 1/8 1/16 1/32 1/64
ok you get the idea.....ok now some tribes say a person has to be between 1/4 to 1/16 to be part of a tribe........thru that idea then Chief Mcintosh's grandson or great grandson could actually not be part of the tribe no more.....

See how the whole blood ammount idea does not work?

Or lets go and give this theory......hey my great grandparents was native American.....but I'm not native american.............yea that idea does not work either.....

Well thats my whole idea on the blood ammount :)