Hello Everyone.....I'm New !

[Anne Poole]

......My name is Anne Nichols Poole, and I am delighted to have found Saponitown Forum !
I am researching my genealogy and as I recently heard someone say, I have hit the "brickest of the brick walls !" I am very interested in several things. My earliest confirmed ancestor is a William Nichols, born about 1720 in Brunswick, Va. For the past year I have suspected that we may have a Native connection somewhere, I just can't find the somewhere ! If anyone can help me with learning more about any of the Nichols line that was in the Virginia area, especially around Brunswick, I would be so very grateful ! This William has eluded us for a very long time, and we would be so happy to learn more about this early part of our Nichols family.
I am also one of the founding staff members of The Lost Colony Group, and have been a Lost Colony researcher for many years. I was reading some of the posts and see where some of you may be connected to the Chowan Native groups. Although I don't have specific names to share, there are some that I may possibly be able to comment on. We also believe that it is highly possible that some of the Lost Colony married into the Chowan groups, and I will be glad to share those names and info with anyone who may be interested.
If anyone can share Nichols info with me, especially if they know of first names of Henry, Richard, and William, I would appreciate learning about the information connected with the names. I am also glad to share any of the info I have regarding The Lost Colony, and also wonder if any of you may have such a history in your family !

Thanks....
Anne Nichols Poole

[techteach]

Welcome, Anna.

Nichols has been discussed here a great deal. Try the search feature on the menu bar. You should find lots of hits.

Techteach

[Anne Poole]

Thanks ! I will see what I can find regarding the Nichols name !

Anne

[sammarroq]

......My name is Anne Nichols Poole, and I am delighted to have found Saponitown Forum !
I am researching my genealogy and as I recently heard someone say, I have hit the "brickest of the brick walls !" I am very interested in several things. My earliest confirmed ancestor is a William Nichols, born about 1720 in Brunswick, Va. For the past year I have suspected that we may have a Native connection somewhere, I just can't find the somewhere ! If anyone can help me with learning more about any of the Nichols line that was in the Virginia area, especially around Brunswick, I would be so very grateful ! This William has eluded us for a very long time, and we would be so happy to learn more about this early part of our Nichols family.
I am also one of the founding staff members of The Lost Colony Group, and have been a Lost Colony researcher for many years. I was reading some of the posts and see where some of you may be connected to the Chowan Native groups. Although I don't have specific names to share, there are some that I may possibly be able to comment on. We also believe that it is highly possible that some of the Lost Colony married into the Chowan groups, and I will be glad to share those names and info with anyone who may be interested.
If anyone can share Nichols info with me, especially if they know of first names of Henry, Richard, and William, I would appreciate learning about the information connected with the names. I am also glad to share any of the info I have regarding The Lost Colony, and also wonder if any of you may have such a history in your family !

Thanks....
Anne Nichols Poole

Welcome Anne, Blondeyelaurie has Nichols. I am not sure if she is around, but if you go to the member's list, you can find her email. I am sure she would help you out.

As for the Lost Colony, I would be interested in what you would be willing to share.

Shirley

[Anne Poole]

Hi Shirley !
I have just been reading those Nichols posts from way back, and hope I can find out more about Blondeyelauries' line to see if we might have a connection there. What Lost Colony info would you like ?

Anne

[Greydove]

......My name is Anne Nichols Poole, and I am delighted to have found Saponitown Forum !
I am researching my genealogy and as I recently heard someone say, I have hit the "brickest of the brick walls !" I am very interested in several things. My earliest confirmed ancestor is a William Nichols, born about 1720 in Brunswick, Va. For the past year I have suspected that we may have a Native connection somewhere, I just can't find the somewhere ! If anyone can help me with learning more about any of the Nichols line that was in the Virginia area, especially around Brunswick, I would be so very grateful ! This William has eluded us for a very long time, and we would be so happy to learn more about this early part of our Nichols family.
I am also one of the founding staff members of The Lost Colony Group, and have been a Lost Colony researcher for many years. I was reading some of the posts and see where some of you may be connected to the Chowan Native groups. Although I don't have specific names to share, there are some that I may possibly be able to comment on. We also believe that it is highly possible that some of the Lost Colony married into the Chowan groups, and I will be glad to share those names and info with anyone who may be interested.
If anyone can share Nichols info with me, especially if they know of first names of Henry, Richard, and William, I would appreciate learning about the information connected with the names. I am also glad to share any of the info I have regarding The Lost Colony, and also wonder if any of you may have such a history in your family !

Thanks....
Anne Nichols Poole Hello Anne! I have Nichols. My line goes like this: John Nichols b 1636 Eng d 1706 Dorchester, Maryland (wife-unknown) son--John b 1686 d1758 Caroline, Maryland (wife- Grace Noble b-? d 1736 --son--Levan b 1730 d 1821 Bath, VA (wife-unknown)--son--Zephaniah b 1763 Kent, Maryland d 1834 Nicolas VA (wife-unknown)--son--James b 1783 Barnstable Mass d 1859 Nicolas VA (wife-Sarah Pierson b 1803 Monroe VA d 1880 Clay VA)--son--Alexander b 1815 d 1887 Nicolas VA (wife--Harriet Summers b 1819 d ?Nicolas VA--dau--Sarah Jane b 1841 Nicolas VA d 1914 IN. (She was my GG_Grandmother) Looking at the dates, my Levan could be related to your William? You never can discount anything till you know for sure. Anyway, Good Luck to you Anne Peace~~^~~Greydove

[Anne Poole]

Hello Greydove !
Thank you for sharing your info !
I think you are going to be kin to a completely different set of Nichols ! I recognize several of these male Nichols names, along with their locations. I have a cousin in Brian Hamman's Nichols dna study, and your Nichols are I believe in a different Nichols haplotype ! My group is actually classified as a "unique clan of Nichols." We are in the G2 dna group, and don't seem to fit any of the other group dna wise. There are only 4 Nichols males in the G2 group, including my cousin, and interestingly enough, the other three, whom we did not know about before the study, all go back to my 4th great grandparents, William Nichols and his wife Sarah Bowden ! However, we do have some native characteristics, with most of the Nichols having slightly olive skin, brown eyes, and dark hair. There are only about five of us who are fair skinned, blonde hair, and blue eyes. I recently learned that I have some Native characteristics, so I just really believe that there is that Native tie somewhere ! My Nichols line migrated down from Brunswick, Va., to NC, where most of us are now. Where the mysterious ancestor William in Brunswick came from, I have no idea !

Anne

[Greydove]

Hello Greydove !
Thank you for sharing your info !
I think you are going to be kin to a completely different set of Nichols ! I recognize several of these male Nichols names, along with their locations. I have a cousin in Brian Hamman's Nichols dna study, and your Nichols are I believe in a different Nichols haplotype ! My group is actually classified as a "unique clan of Nichols." We are in the G2 dna group, and don't seem to fit any of the other group dna wise. There are only 4 Nichols males in the G2 group, including my cousin, and interestingly enough, the other three, whom we did not know about before the study, all go back to my 4th great grandparents, William Nichols and his wife Sarah Bowden ! However, we do have some native characteristics, with most of the Nichols having slightly olive skin, brown eyes, and dark hair. There are only about five of us who are fair skinned, blonde hair, and blue eyes. I recently learned that I have some Native characteristics, so I just really believe that there is that Native tie somewhere ! My Nichols line migrated down from Brunswick, Va., to NC, where most of us are now. Where the mysterious ancestor William in Brunswick came from, I have no idea !

Anne Hi Anne. You're welcome. You never know when you see someone else having a similar surname. That's what is so nice abt having a place to come to compare family trees and especially when you suspect ndn connection. Take Care~^~Greydove

[sammarroq]

Hi Shirley !
I have just been reading those Nichols posts from way back, and hope I can find out more about Blondeyelauries' line to see if we might have a connection there. What Lost Colony info would you like ?

Anne

I am interested to see if there have been any findings as to what happened to this group. I have heard different theories...just want to see if there is anything new:) Thanks.

I hope you and Laurie can talk, because she really has done her research and is very organized...unlike myself:o

Shirley

[sammarroq]

Anne,

Is your Nichols DNA project open to all?? I was curious about the halpotypes of this line. Is your halpotype G2a or G2c? I found this on Wiki...

Three commonly occurring subgroups of Haplogroup G have been identified so far: G1 (M285), G2a (P15) and G2c (M377). G3 (P287) exists but is rarely found in the G population. The highest reported concentration of G1 is in Iran, with next most frequent concentrations in neighboring countries. G2 represents the majority of haplogroup G Y-chromosomes in all countries, and a recently discovered subcategory (likely to be called G2a3) accounts for a high percentage of G in all sampled countries.

A clade of closely related Ashkenazi Jews represent virtually all G2c persons, with just three other G2c haplotypes having been reported so far: one Turk from Kars in northeast Turkey near Armenia, one Pashtun, and one Burusho in Pakistan. The extreme rarity of G2c in northeast Pakistan could indicate that G2c in this area originates outside the region and was brought there in the historic period, perhaps from further west (this area was part of both the Achaemenid Persian Empire, conquered by Alexander the Great, and then formed a part of the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom). These two reported Pakistani G2c haplotypes are quite divergent from the Ashkenazi Jewish clade, and therefore do not at all indicate a recent common origin. The Turkish G2c is somewhat closer, but not identical. It remains to be seen if testing will reveal G2c haplotypes in other populations — this is some indication that G2c occurs at low levels in the Near East. Early reports that Ashkenazi G men were all G1 are now proven incorrect. There are also Jewish genetic clades within G2 and G1 whose members are not closely related to the G2c men. All G2c men tested so far have a rare null value for the DYS425 marker, (a missing "T" allele of the DYS371 palindromic STR), the result of a RecLOH event, a finding not yet seen among most other G haplotypes. Among Jews worldwide, haplogroup G comprises between 10–20% of the population. Though forming some recognizable clades, Jews today comprise a small percentage of the total number of G men worldwide.


Shirley

[Linda]

You should be able to find a good deal of info on the site about Fort Christanna, in Brunswick County, VA, the last place the VA/NC Siouan Nations existed before being dispersed and losing their tribal identity. There's an article off the main page about it.

[Robin B.]

Anne,
I am new at this and this is my first time posting when I saw your post. I am searching for information on my GGM Rosa Nichols. The only information I have is that she was born Jan. 6, 1875 in Halifax Co. I do not know her father's name and her mother's name might be "Fannie" or "Frannie". Rosa married Thomas Burchell in 1890 and they lived in Leaksville, NC (now named Eden, where Byrd was and called it the "garden of Eden")around 1894. I came across this website because my mother's cousin said we were Blackfoot. My grandmother always said she was Indian but I always assumed Cherokee because I did not know about the Blackfoot information. I am hoping that someone here can help me fill in blanks on my grandmother's side.

Also, you mentioned the Lost Colony. I am from Wanchese, NC the village on the other end of Roanoke Island. (My parents lived there when I was born but because of health issues, my mother had me in Leaksville where my grandparents were.) Anyhow, I even worked at the Lost Colony play during a couple of summers as an usher. Small world!

[beeleaf]

Hello and welcome, Anne!

Hi Robin. I have some Burchell cousins--from the same general area. Think they connect to the Bowling or Foley side (both of which have native roots).
Used to live right off Leaksville Rd, in Ridgeway. Went to Eden when we needed city stuff. ;~) It's so cool to start seeing people from home showing up here...especially looking for Blackfoot.

In case anyone is interested, Eden is in Rockinham County, NC.

[Robin B.]

Hi Beeleaf!
Small world isn't it!!! I spent a number of years living in Leaksville, then changed to Eden, when I lived there with my grandmother who was a Burchell. Her parents were Thomas Burchell, b. Sept. 1862 in Horse Pasture, Va. d. sometime between 1910-1920 (don't know the exact date). He married Rosa Nichols in 1890. (I posted about Rosa above.) That is all the information I know about either one. Sadly, as it oftens happens, we want to know this information when there are very few people left you can help you. I'd love more info on both of these GGparents. My grandmother was Rosa and Thomas's daughter, Margie, b. Nov. 21, 1890, d. Nov. 4, 1974. Margie married Thomas B. Thompson from Leaksville, he died in 1959. She had a number of sisters and they all lived right around the same general area near Leaksville (Eden). I now live in PA and don't get down to Eden as much but when I was there last Sept. for my uncle's funeral (my mother's brother's, son of Margie) is when I spoke to my mother's cousin who I had not seen since I was a child and I began to ask her about my grandmother always talking about being Indian and some of the relatives. This cousin lead me to the Blackfoot...she said she had known this for all her life because her mother (a sister to my grandmother) spoke about it. My grandmother has told me about being Indian but not too many details.

Perhaps your Burchells and mine are the same???

Thank you!!!

[Anne Poole]

Hey.....
Most of us as Lost Colony researchers believe that the colonists assimilated into the native groups, which they would have had to do to survive. Within about a hundred years, most of the colonists' descendants would have become thoroughly native, and would probably not have much more than maybe some vague bits of memory about their early ancestors being English. We are actively engaged in a dna study now to collect dna from people who have the Lost Colony history in their family, and hope to one day be able to compare it to people in England who have the same name and history in their family.

Anne

[Robin B.]

Anne,

You posted that you have Nichols...I am trying to find info on my greatgrandmother Rosa Nichols, born in Halifax County. I do not know her parents names other than her mother may be Frannie or Fannie or something like that name. Do you know this name?

Thanks!

[Anne Poole]

How neat that you are from Wanchese ! I would LOVE to live in that area, and actually hope that I can move there one day when I retire ! And I also LOVE the drama.....have probably seen it 50 times over the years ! This past summer our research group participated in the Virginia
Dare birthday celebration, and were invited to attend the cast party after the drama was over that night. It was wonderful ! And I hope to be back there for this season's celebrations !

[Anne Poole]

Robin.....
I am not familiar with these Nichols people. Not to say that they aren't in the family, just that I haven't heard of them. There seem to be quite a few Nichols, and we could very easily be related !

Anne

[Anne Poole]

Hi....
The Nichols dna study is open to all Nichols males who would like to test. Just do a search under Nichols dna study, and that should take you to the site with all the info you need !

Anne

[Robin B.]

Hi Anne!

My greatgrandmother was Rosa Nichols, born in Halifax Co....have you ever seen this name in your Nichols?

Thank you!

[Robin B.]

Anne...Sorry for the double post!

[Robin B.]

I still have my brother that lives down there but I don't get down there as often as I would like. Wnachese still retains the small fishing village way of life. I love it down there!

I was hoping we could make some connection with the Nichols. I can go back on my grandfather's side to the early 1700's but can't get past Rosa and Thomas Burchell.

I went to school with a Martha Poole who was from Manteo. I din't keep in touch with her after I married and moved.

[Anne Poole]

Would you ever like to move back to Wanchese ?

[Anne Poole]

Also, what other older Nichols names do you have ? I know that there are some Nichols around Bertie, but I haven't been able to connect my line to them...

[Robin B.]

Most definetly!!! I keep telling my brother to save me a piece of land.

I too enjoyed the Lost Colony and often took my kids there when we went down and hope to take the grandkids to see it soon. I used to work Fearings drug store after school and the actors came in there a lot.

I miss the island...it is home! I did live with my grandmother (dau. of Rosa) for a number of years in Leaksville (now Eden) so I guess I knew both ends of the state a bit.

[Robin B.]

I don't have names of any other Nichols...I only know Rosa's name, date and place of birth, when she died and where she is buried...she's my "brick wall"!

[beeleaf]

my grandmother who was a Burchell. Her parents were Thomas Burchell, b. Sept. 1862 in Horse Pasture, Va. d. sometime between 1910-1920

Well, ya know you're from the boonies if you've ever heard of Horse Pasture, VA. ;~)

My Burchell connection is my Dad's late cousin Billy. Unfortunately, that is all I know about them. He was the son of my paternal grandmother's sister (daughters of the folks in my avatar). But she had remarried to a Pratt when she died. Don't know Billy's father's name. Sorry.

[Robin B.]

Hi Beeleaf!

We have a Billy Burchill that is related...this is what my brother emailed
me:

I remember Thomas Burchell, I think he is Billie Burchell's Dad who used to work with Calvin (Thompson) and now works with Calvin, Jr. He used to come down to the coast, a huge, huge man, who had a very, very little wife. I think Hallie is Woots' Mother.

Thomas Burchill that he speaks of was my grandmother's brother. My grandmother was Margie Burchell and married Tommy Thompson. Calvin Thompson is my mother's brother and had a welding shop on the old Stoneville Road.

Is this Billy Burchell your relative???

You said there is NA with the Burchells...may I ask what and how???

Thanks so much!

Robin

[beeleaf]

You said there is NA with the Burchells...may I ask what and how???

Hey, Robin.

Thought I had said NA on both the Bowling and Foley side, not Burchell. Our Billy Burchell would be the son of Inez Foley Pratt. Inez was the daughter of the folks in my avatar (Bowling + Foley + Ross). Strong oral tradition (Cherokee, unproven but tsalagi name part of tradition), evidence of Saponi, Patawomeck (tribal history and documented), maybe some others in there. Also Scotch Irish. ;~)

What little I know of the Burchells was in my previous post.

You said you think Hallie is Woot's mother. Who is Woot? "Woot" was the first part of another of my grandma's name.

[Robin B.]

Our Woots is my mother's cousin. We knew Woots mother as Aunt Eck so i did not know her name was Hallie. My brother thinks that's was Woots mother due to elimination of the others.

My father's mother (who is now 95) retired from Ridgeway Clocks...that's in your area!

Thanks for your information!

[beeleaf]

My father's mother (who is now 95) retired from Ridgeway Clocks...that's in your area!

No kidding? When did she retire? My parents and I all worked there. Well, I didn't stay very long. Was a summer job and I hated it. But she might know my folks. Dad was the maintenance foreman for several years. Name's Howard.

[Robin B.]

Her name is Dessie Light and lives in Eden. Sadly, her mind (but she still goes like crazy!) is not the best so answers to any questions are not possible. Anyhow, I want to think she worked their in the late 60's, early 70's. She gave me a wall clock (grandmother's clock?) from there shortly after I married in 1972. I'd really LOVE to have the grandfather's clock she rec'd. when she retired!!!

[beeleaf]

I'm not great with dates. But if she was still there when the name changed (from Gravely Furniture), her time would overlap with my folks'.

Yeah, those clocks are world famous. Gorgeous stuff. Well, lots of beautiful furniture came from that area. :~(

Light? Just happens to be my parents' neighbor's name. Wonder if she might be related to Billy Light, of Ridgeway? It is also a "surname with possibilities" in my dad's line, although I doubt we'll ever find out for sure.