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mwheelus
01-27-2008, 05:37 AM
I don't know if this is an appropriate place to do this, however I just wanted to introduce myself. I am Monica Wheelus from Texas, and I am a mixed woman that includes known root ancestors of Scots, German, English, Spanish, and varied NA people that I still haven't unraveled completely. I have enjoyed so many threads on here so far, but one that began about t-shirts got my attention.

My great grandmother was one of the "lost" Kickapoo people that were living on the border of Texas and Mexico. There are still some there now, but the general population takes them to be Mexicans with good cheekbones. :D She was born in 1891 and married at 14 taking some of her brothers with she and her husband to central Texas. She never made it back to Eagle Pass/Piedras Negras to see her family again. She told my father of her people when he was a child, and as her Alzheimers progressed later in life she told me about them.

I have worked hard to get her family history, so some day they can be included among the records of the Kickapoo. Because her immediate family all died by 1930 it has been deemed impossible by most but we will see. I have been called a "wannabe", my father was accused of trying to get money from the Kickapoo people. We went to see the Kickapoo in Oklahoma for help in person, with our names and dates that coincided with theirs, and were told we were nothing more than common Mexicans. Nothing wrong with being of Mexican heritage but it was still painful to not get a chance to talk after making all efforts to follow the rules they gave us. I was 18 so it was quite a blow to who I knew I was. Now I realize the man we met may not have spoken for the whole Kickapoo people, but his distaste for "our kind" was very clear. I haven't given up yet, but I pick my battles more wisely now. It left quite an impression on me at 18 though.

While working in college I met people from Colorado working for a geophysical company, and the supervisor told me everyday for a month that he couldn't wait for the day I met Aaron. I was 20 & single so I began to get excited myself.:rolleyes: The day came and in walked 3 of the most beautiful human beings I had ever seen. All Indians from northern New Mexico and Southern Colorado. I instantly felt a pull at my heart. Not love at first sight but a connection like no other I had ever felt. I had never said a word about my native heritage to anyone. Aaron was one of them and immediately asked me who my people were. It shocked me speechless.

Over the next year he taught me a lot about his people, the Chiracahua Apache, and told me how he was treated growing up because his mother was a halfbreed and his father was "pure". The crew supervisor that teased me for a month had been his "white" foster dad and raised him since he was 12. Aaron told me that hearts know only love not lineage and that no matter how I got treated to never give up finding me. That was a wake up call to me. As an adult he went back to the reservation as often as he could to pursue his hunger for everything he could learn about his people. It inspired me to find out more about myself.

I began to listen and write notes when my mother's family talked about growing up in Oklahoma and their dad was German and not much said about their mother. They were closet Indians so to speak. I began my first try at genealogy and found part of myself in Oklahoma and among the relatives of Cynthia Ann Parker in Texas. It was very eye opening to find out that I really did have a reason for feeling like I did. I found several "certified" Cherokee relatives from my mother's family, and I met the distant cousins to my father that ultimately are the reason I am here. The Goins family.

I eventually lost contact with Aaron in late 1997 when he went to Canada for work, but the instant connection and his words were always in my heart. I talked about him for the first time to my mother, grandmother and great aunt when we road tripped to Santa Fe this past summer. My grandmother and great aunt finally opened up on that trip and it got very interesting. Especially when I heard my name called by none other than my old friend at the square in Santa Fe. I really do believe now that nothing in life is by chance.

I may have documented relatives that can prove they are NA by birthright but it doesn't make me less Indian than them. It is a matter of heart, oral history and self-knowledge for me. My families on both sides lived when it wasn't en vogue to be native. I have known my whole life there was more to family history than hushed whispers and I have made it my goal to find all of it I can.

sammarroq
01-28-2008, 02:59 PM
mwheelus,

Thanks for sharing and welcome! If you use the search function and put in Goins, you will find a lot of info on this family. Moreover, if you have not already, check out Jack Goins web site, for even more info on the family.

Your experience is common for mixed-bloods...one finds that they are not heartily accepted into any society. This is a very good place to rest your head and also to dig for answers.

I find it much less stressful to stay out of the politics, I am not looking for that anyway...just the truth:) Good luck in your search!

Shirley

malisa
01-28-2008, 09:03 PM
has anyone read or watched the movi "bury my heart at wounded knee"

mwheelus
01-28-2008, 09:51 PM
I have now used the search feature for Goins and it has given me tons of insight. Not quite so overwhelmed as I was.

Yes, I read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee and another about people that went back to Wounded Knee in the early 1970's. In fact I did a jr high research paper on the examples of racism through out the history of the United states citing incidents in both those books.

I was living where there were few people of any color other than pink or brown with very little blending so I was quite the scandal in US History Class. My father was called in for disciplinary referral when I got into a fight with a classmate for calling me a pinto bean. To this day I am unclear exactly why he called me that but I know it meant to be mean.:p

redfox
01-29-2008, 05:46 PM
i have read the book also, was asked to read it after the first time I went to pine ridge south dakota.

techteach
01-29-2008, 06:55 PM
There is a video on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7fZonjD1M) about Wounded Knee that was shown to us at the museum at the college on Pine Ridge. We used it when presenting on our trips there last Friday. Good one.
I would also recommend Lakota Woman that deals with the second Wounded Knee, Skins, and Smoke Signals. The latter two were recommended to us by our Lakota friends.

Techteach

malisa
01-29-2008, 07:17 PM
i just started reading the book yesterday...was wondering if it would be good to watch the movi!! so far from reading the book...it is heartbreaking & upsetting.

Linda
01-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Thanks for sharing your story, M. I enjoyed your telling of it.

mwheelus
01-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Linda
aww that was a story i don't mind sharing and I got carried away.:o I guess reading other people's stories and experiences reminded me how lucky I was to have a "brother" in the world. It was nice to see Aaron this summer, even if I got funny looks from my family. He and his "white" dad were very big influences on my life when I was not sure who I was or wanted to be and I was lucky to have them both. The story of how Aaron ended up in the child welfare system is a heartbreaking one, and one that shows just how bad it can be on the reservations our families were "given". He was one of the lucky ones where he came from.

beeleaf
01-30-2008, 11:31 AM
Hello and Welcome.

mwheelus
02-07-2008, 01:40 AM
Well I need to express my frustrations about all this research. I am not discouraged, really.... However with every answer I get I have 5 more questions and few want to answer me. I found a patient cousin that is lightyears ahead in research, and he has brought out so many more questions.

Our ancestor that married a Goin/Goins/Goings/?? has no real history other than most likely born in Durango, Mexico. He served in the Confederacy, and was "adopted" into the Goins family in Bexar Co, TX at age 16/17. There is no history of his parents because he was a captive, since a fairly young age, of a group of Indians that roamed Texas and Mexico around the 1840's. He fled them and lived with the Texas Goins south of San Antonio.

While I am thrilled to have found this out, the only documentation of it is on his Civil War service papers. He was a lawman of some sort and was killed by an unknown person abt 1880. His oldest son followed in his footsteps and was killed abt 6yrs later at age 25-28 by an outlaw. I got that confirmed today, but I still feel so empty. They didn't live to share their memories with the younger children. I was working on going back prior to these ancestors to find where we came from, and ended up confirming things closer to home.

I am not complaining about what has been found, but it just seems prior to the move to MS my family lines didn't exist except to be listed as born in Va & NC on census. There are lots of origin theories among the family I have found. Evidently I stumbled into a very heated and divided debate to the origins of these Goins, Nash, Ash, & Taylors. It seems that my gut instinct was proven right and my own relatives are predjudice against the "Mexican" relatives that remained in Texas rather than move to Oklahoma.

I have a "white" sounding surname through marriage, but one of these distant relatives I found happens to actually know my very non-white looking father. He assumes my father speaks Spanish because of the surname and constantly is trying to "catch" him acting "Mexican" by speaking Spanish to him. We just found out that he is a 3rd(?) cousin to my dad, and they have known each other for 17 yrs. Well, this man has been emailing me and because he assumes I am a "white" Indian of Goins descent he has expressed his distaste for the "non-white" Goins.

I want to hear his information, but am I selling out by not correcting his assumptions of my whiteness? :p Should I just give him enough rope to hang himself with his words then let him know who I am? I don't want a perfect family, just someone with some info that is willing to share. Personally, I am thrilled by all my mixedness and proud that my family perservered through all that the new frontier threw at them.

Sorry to vent on here, but I am hoping that someone has had a similar experience and can offer advice on how to approach hostile relations.

melungeon
02-07-2008, 10:54 AM
Hello,

I think I can answer to everyone on this list that we have ran into hostile relatives the minute we start digging up skeletons LOL. You just have to do what you want and feels right, unfortunately some will not want to know or here.

I have one question- what exactly do the civil war paper say? I mean, are you sure he was " adopted" by the Goins? I am just asking because it is a familiar tune to explain the dark features of a sibling cousin etc as being adopted if they want to cover up the fact that the " dark side " actually comes from the family. I am a Goins desc and I can tell you they come in all colors of the rainbow. In some related lines in my own family they had the dark ones and the light ones. My grgrgranparents were listed as colored when they got married, one a Minor one a Goins. I always smile to myself when I think about that marriage and say, What color would that be ?:) I can tell you that some Goins that moved through Louisiana and into Texas were locally known as Redbones, there is a Redbone Heritage group that will probably have some info on the Texas Goins. As well as the Gowen Foundation website.

I am sorry but my Goins stayed in TN so I do not have info on the Texas Goins, if I can be of any other help though let me know. I have some of my lines listed below in the tag.

melungeon
02-07-2008, 10:56 AM
I must beg forgiveness on the typos in my prior post, head moving faster than hands! LOL:D

mwheelus
02-07-2008, 05:19 PM
LOL well my head and hands always move at different speeds, so glad that typewriters are pretty much obsolete. To address your questions:

I do not have hard copy of his CSA paperwork only the information that was on it. He escaped the captors at age 16 or 17 while the natives were near San Antonio and was found and taken in by Jeremiah Goins. This is the Jeremiah that ended up in Oklahoma and had such a prolific family.

On his paperwork under place of birth he has Mexico, this is known but where in Mexico is not known. He lists family as Jeremiah Goins since return from Indians 1858, and by the time of enlistment in CSA he was married to Jeremiah's niece Martha. After the civil war there is speculation that he traveled to Mexico to find his brothers and bring them to Texas.
He was not a dark man, he is supposed to have been the beginning of all the green eyes in the family, possibly Spanish Mexican. I am going to venture a guess that his white features are possibly why Jeremiah took him in rather than shot him for being part of a raiding party. 16/17 was thought a man by most in those times, that is why I put the quotes up for adopted son. It is known that he lived with them until his marriage, then sent his wife to her family when he went to war. The year of his enlistment in not legible.

I have been looking into the Redbone connection, and I am A-OK with the colors of my rainbow. I have poked around both groups you mentioned and will jump in full swing as soon as I can sort through the Texas/Oklahoma mystery.

It all centers around Jeremiah Goins that is mentioned above. I am being told that it is 2 different Jeremiah Goins, and there is a Jeremiah Jr. The birth dates for the man in Texas and Oklahoma are the same, so are the listed children, and I have a marriage record in Bexar Co Texas in the 1820's.
So I am aggravated at people making the facts fit them and no one else. Childish IMO, guess they didn't learn anything in Kindergarten. GRRR any-hoo, I will just keep digging for birth/marriage/death records of the Stephen Goins that is the father to my Philip Goins.

If I run into relations toTN Goins in the process I will call on you lol