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Mystic1231
03-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Hello Everyone,

Thanks for letting me join your forum.

I am researching the family of Cole and Anderson. Any information would be helpful. I am trying to find information on a Ezekiel Cole Anderson. I have been told that he was a Cherokee Indian and that he was taken in by a man named Anderson. Would like to find the name of this Anderson. He was probally a Cole as a child. Would like to find information on his parents. Also would like any information that may prove that he was Indian and anything else about his childhood.

This is what I already have...


Descendants of Ezekiel Cole Anderson




1. EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON was born 1791 in South Carolina (listed in 1850 census in MI), and died 22 Mar 1851 in Cass County, MI. He married WINNIE ESTER GOIN 22 Apr 1815 in Logan Co, KY, daughter of ISSAC GOINS and CLATA. She was born 1797 in KY, and died 1891.

EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON:
Ezekiel and Winnie came to Mich 1834
Ezekiel, was captured when a boy in War, his real name
is COLE. But the man who captured him in Lawrence, IL
was named Anderson. Ezekiel, took the Anderson name.

Ezekiel, was a Cherokee Indian. Nothing is known about
his earlier life.





More About EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON:
Residence: 1850, Porter, Cass, Michigan

Children of EZEKIEL ANDERSON and WINNIE GOIN are:
i. ALVINA ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
ii. ELIZABETH ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
iii. GEORGE ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
iv. JOHN ANDERSON, b. Illinois; m. FRANCIS 'FANNY' ALLEN, 11 Mar 1849, IL; b. 01 May 1831, Columbia Co. Ohio; d. 29 Jun 1917.
v. LUCINDA ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
vi. JEFFERSON B. ANDERSON, b. 1818, Lawrence Co., IL; d. 1889, Cass County, MI; m. AMANDA J. COUSINS, 30 Sep 1852, Cass County, MI; d. 06 May 1878.

JEFFERSON B. ANDERSON:
He was a member of Co. I, 102nd U.S.C.T.

vii. MARY A ANDERSON, b. 1825, Lawrence Co., IL.
viii. MATELDA ANDERSON, b. 1830, Lawrence Co., IL.
ix. HARRIET ANDERSON, b. 1831, Lawrence Co., IL.
x. WINNIE ANNA ANDERSON, b. 1833, Lawrence Co., IL.; d. 08 Feb 1871, Mt. Zion Cemetery.
xi. ANDREW ANDERSON, b. 1835, Lawrence Co., IL.
xii. ADELINE ANDERSON, b. 1838, Lawrence Co., IL.
xiii. ELLES ANDERSON, b. 1840, Lawrence Co., IL.
xiv. AMON ANDERSON, b. 1842, Lawrence Co., IL.

Thanks

Mystic1231

melungeon
03-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Hello, saw you guys were discussing some Andersons. Thought I would throw my surnames in.

My grandmothers maiden name was Anderson, they came from VA she siad and were Blackfeet Indian. haha.

I also am researching, Minor,Roberts,Goins,Sizemore,Blevins,Wallin(wallin g),Griffin,Green,Moore,Rogers,Bunch,Stapleton.

These are the names from the VA area. My Minors Sizemores and Goins became the Melungeons of Tennessee.

my Andersons wound up in Kentucky by way of a brief stop also in Tennessee. What is interesting is both sides of my mamaws and papaws family have many common ancestors/surnames. I am sure they were not aware but I discovered it in my research. When they met and married she was from Kentucky his family had moved to Ohio from Tennesee. A lot of Rogers/Andersons/Sizemores on both sides.

Tari

BlondeyeLaurie
03-01-2007, 11:48 AM
Hello Everyone,

Thanks for letting me join your forum.

I am researching the family of Cole and Anderson. Any information would be helpful. I am trying to find information on a Ezekiel Cole Anderson. I have been told that he was a Cherokee Indian and that he was taken in by a man named Anderson. Would like to find the name of this Anderson. He was probally a Cole as a child. Would like to find information on his parents. Also would like any information that may prove that he was Indian and anything else about his childhood.

This is what I already have...


Descendants of Ezekiel Cole Anderson




1. EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON was born 1791 in South Carolina (listed in 1850 census in MI), and died 22 Mar 1851 in Cass County, MI. He married WINNIE ESTER GOIN 22 Apr 1815 in Logan Co, KY, daughter of ISSAC GOINS and CLATA. She was born 1797 in KY, and died 1891.

EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON:
Ezekiel and Winnie came to Mich 1834
Ezekiel, was captured when a boy in War, his real name
is COLE. But the man who captured him in Lawrence, IL
was named Anderson. Ezekiel, took the Anderson name.

Ezekiel, was a Cherokee Indian. Nothing is known about
his earlier life.





More About EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON:
Residence: 1850, Porter, Cass, Michigan

Children of EZEKIEL ANDERSON and WINNIE GOIN are:
i. ALVINA ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
ii. ELIZABETH ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
iii. GEORGE ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
iv. JOHN ANDERSON, b. Illinois; m. FRANCIS 'FANNY' ALLEN, 11 Mar 1849, IL; b. 01 May 1831, Columbia Co. Ohio; d. 29 Jun 1917.
v. LUCINDA ANDERSON, b. Illinois.
vi. JEFFERSON B. ANDERSON, b. 1818, Lawrence Co., IL; d. 1889, Cass County, MI; m. AMANDA J. COUSINS, 30 Sep 1852, Cass County, MI; d. 06 May 1878.

JEFFERSON B. ANDERSON:
He was a member of Co. I, 102nd U.S.C.T.

vii. MARY A ANDERSON, b. 1825, Lawrence Co., IL.
viii. MATELDA ANDERSON, b. 1830, Lawrence Co., IL.
ix. HARRIET ANDERSON, b. 1831, Lawrence Co., IL.
x. WINNIE ANNA ANDERSON, b. 1833, Lawrence Co., IL.; d. 08 Feb 1871, Mt. Zion Cemetery.
xi. ANDREW ANDERSON, b. 1835, Lawrence Co., IL.
xii. ADELINE ANDERSON, b. 1838, Lawrence Co., IL.
xiii. ELLES ANDERSON, b. 1840, Lawrence Co., IL.
xiv. AMON ANDERSON, b. 1842, Lawrence Co., IL.

Thanks

Mystic1231

Whoa Mystic! You hit the nail right on the head with Ezekial! When I read your post I was immediately mentally keyed in on one fellow in my tree: Ezekial Cole is how I had him indexed...this is what I have on his family:

Ezekial Cole (Anderson) was b: abt 1793 in Lincoln Co, NC; he was the son of John Charles "Jack" Cole and Cuzzie nee Anderson (ha!...lightbulb goes off here...he apparently took his maternal name it seems.) He was 1 of 8 children...number four in birth order of: Jackson "Jack" (1787), Charles (1789), William (1791...who also was reported to have used the Anderson as a given name rather than as a surname...perhaps it was his middle name?), Ezekial (1793), Mary (1795), Margaret (1797), Luana (1800) & Wilson (1803).

You are correct that this Ezekial is from Native ancestry...his brother William filed an Eastern Cherokee application under the name Anderson Cole (ECA # 31697). This line of Cole's MD into surnames: Gibson, Higgins, Watkins, Collins, Musgrove, Campbell. Numerous members of this line did file ECA's so their NA ancestry is pretty well established. Most ppl do feel certain that they were of Cherokee descent however there is also soem speculation that the matriarch (Cuzzie Anderson) may have been of another tribal lineage (perhaps Choctaw or Shawnee if I recall correctly?) At any rate....I thank you for sharng what you know of Ezekial...I had not examined his line at all...not knowing that he assumed his maternal surname....great job! If you wish for further information on Ezekial's siblings and their marriages and/or children...feel free to email me directly.
Blessings to you~~~Laurie

Linda
03-01-2007, 12:44 PM
Cass Co. MI is an important destination for a number Siouan families who migrated out of the southeast. It's important because it's unusually well documented. Ask Forest about them, he's done quite a bit of research with them. You'll find him on the members list linked in the top navigation bar above.

Mystic1231
03-01-2007, 12:56 PM
Descendants of Issac Goins


Generation No. 1

1. ISSAC GOINS was born in Kentucky, and died in Kentucky. He married CLATA. She was born in Kentucky, and died in Kentucky.

Child of ISSAC GOINS and CLATA is:
2. i. WINNIE ESTER GOIN, b. 1797, KY; d. 1891.


Generation No. 2

2. WINNIE ESTER2 GOIN (ISSAC GOINS) was born 1797 in KY, and died 1891. She married EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON 22 Apr 1815 in Logan Co, KY. He was born 1791 in South Carolina, and died 22 Mar 1851 in Cass County, MI.


More About EZEKIEL COLE ANDERSON:
Residence: 1850, Porter, Cass, Michigan1

Children of WINNIE GOIN and EZEKIEL ANDERSON are:
3. i. WINNIE ANNA ANDERSON, b. 1833, Lawrence Co., IL.; d. 08 Feb 1871, Mt. Zion Cemetery.
ii. MARY A ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL.
iii. MATELDA ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL.
iv. HARRIET ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL.
v. ANDREW ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL.
vi. ADELINE ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL.
vii. ELLES ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL.
viii. AMON ANDERSON, b. Lawrence Co., IL. (Have a Pic of him)
ix. JOHN STEWARD, b. North Carolina.

Notes for JOHN STEWARD:
Person was a labor in Anderson's family

x. JEFFERSON B. ANDERSON, b. 1829, Illinois; m. AMANDA J. COUSINS, 30 Sep 1852, Cass County, MI; d. 06 May 1878.

Notes for JEFFERSON B. ANDERSON:
He was a member of Co. I, 102nd U.S.C.T.

xi. JOHN ANDERSON, m. FRANCIS 'FANNY' ALLEN, 11 Mar 1849, IL; b. 01 May 1831, Columbia Co. Ohio; d. 29 Jun 1917.


Generation No. 3

3. WINNIE ANNA ANDERSON (WINNIE ESTER GOIN, ISSAC GOINS) was born 1833 in Lawrence Co., IL., and died 08 Feb 1871 in Mt. Zion Cemetery. She married WILLIAM ALLEN, son of JOSEPH ALLEN and REBECCA TABOURN. He was born 24 Nov 1832 in Columbianna Co, Ohio, and died 07 Jul 1925 in Porter twp Cass County Michigan, Mt. Zion Cemetery.

Children of WINNIE ANDERSON and WILLIAM ALLEN are:
i. BENJAMINE FRANKLINE ALLEN, b. 18 Sep 1854; d. 05 Jul 1910, Mt. Zion Cemetery; m. (1) TEMPERANCE ESTER ARTIS; d. 09 Feb 1905; m. (2) MARTHA WADE.
ii. JENNETTA M ALLEN, b. 30 Dec 1855; d. 21 May 1920.
iii. ROSETTA ALLEN, b. 1860, Porter twp Cassopolis County Michigan; d. 1893; m. JOHN CALLOWAY.
iv. LUCINDA ROXANN ALLEN, b. 11 Oct 1862, Porter twp Cass County Michigan; d. 24 Jun 1918, Mt. Zion Cemetery; m. (1) WISEMAN HARRIS, 29 Dec; m. (2) SYLVANNS HAITHCOX, 1882; m. (3) CHARLES O. WALDEN, 01 Apr 1900.
4. v. JANE ALLEN, b. 17 Nov 1864, Porter twp Cassopolis County Michigan; d. 09 Sep 1939.
vi. MINERVA ALLEN, b. 07 Apr 1867; d. 29 Sep 1952, At Home; m. JAMES A. COKER, 29 Sep 1886.

More About MINERVA ALLEN:
Burial: 02 Oct 1952, Calvin Community Chapel

vii. MARY ELLEN ALLEN, b. 03 Aug 1869; d. 01 May 1937, Mt. Zion Cemetery; m. THOMAS POWELL, 22 Dec 1888.
viii. LAVINA ALLEN.
ix. ROXANNA ALLEN.


Generation No. 4

4. JANE ALLEN (WINNIE ANNA ANDERSON, WINNIE ESTER GOIN, ISSAC GOINS) was born 17 Nov 1864 in Porter twp Cassopolis County Michigan, and died 09 Sep 1939. She married ORLANDO REYNOLDS2,3 12 Aug 1885, son of ELISHA REYNOLDS and LUCY SCOTT. He was born 20 Jun 1848 in Ohio, and died 13 Jun 1935.

More About JANE ALLEN:
Residence: 1920, Calvin, Cass, Michigan4,4

More About ORLANDO REYNOLDS:
Residence: 1920, Calvin, Cass, Michigan4

Children of JANE ALLEN and ORLANDO REYNOLDS are:
i. RAYMOND5 REYNOLDS, b. 30 May 1886; d. 12 Mar 1898.
ii. MYRTLE ANN REYNOLDS, b. 24 Mar 1889, Ridge Township, Van Wert County; d. 14 Jul 1973, Cincinnati, Oh; m. GEORGE A PHILLIPS, 31 Oct 1909; b. 22 Dec 1885; d. 1984.



iii. ELEYSWORTH REYNOLDS b. 21 Oct 1891, Ohio; d. August 31, 1966; m. MYRTLE VAUGHAN, 28 Jan 1917.

More About ELEYSWORTH REYNOLDS:
Residence: 1910, Ridge, Van Wert, Ohio

iv. MABEL ESTHER REYNOLDS, b. 1909, Ohio.

More About MABEL ESTHER REYNOLDS:
Residence: 1920, Calvin, Cass, Michigan

Mystic1231
03-03-2007, 12:59 PM
Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could give me more information about this...

Ezekiel Cole Anderson was in Illinois prior to 1818 near Fort allison
and was part of a family unit consisting of a mother, father and three sons,
including Ezekiel. Whether Ezekiel was a natural born child of this family
unit is yet to be established, but person represented as his brothers were
George Anderson and Joseph Anderson. A person most likely represented as
his mother was Susanna Anderson. And what relation these people may have had to Cuzzie Anderson and John C. Coles?

Thanks
Mystic1231

BlondeyeLaurie
03-03-2007, 08:37 PM
Hey Mystic....I thank you so much for posting what you have on your Ezekial...please bear with me and give me a bit of time to digest and dig moreso...I have my thumb in a few new pots lately...LOL....Take care...I'll get back with you just as soon as I get to digging. Thanks bunches...Take care~~~Laurie

Mystic1231
03-03-2007, 09:07 PM
Hey Mystic....I thank you so much for posting what you have on your Ezekial...please bear with me and give me a bit of time to digest and dig moreso...I have my thumb in a few new pots lately...LOL....Take care...I'll get back with you just as soon as I get to digging. Thanks bunches...Take care~~~Laurie

Ok....Tick...Tick...goes the clock:)

No Problem Laurie....take your time.

Mystic1231

Bill Childs
03-08-2007, 04:21 PM
1800 Logan Co., Ky Tax List:
Edward Goin, 8/26/1800
Isaac Goin, 8/26/1800
Jabez Going, - / - / 1800

1810 Logan Co., Ky Census:
p.167, Isaac Goen, 10 Other Free.
p.196, William Cole, 5 Other Free.
+ 4 houses, William Anderson, (W) = 20301-22010-0-0.
(2 males under 10, 3 males 16 to 25, 1 male 45 or over,
2 females under 10, 2 females 10 to 15, 1 female 25 to 44)

Other Anderson households on 1810 Logan Co., Ky Census:
John Anderson, (W) oldest male 16 to 25 + family + 4 slaves.
John Anderson, (W) 2 males 45 or over + family.
William Anderson (W) oldest male 25 to 44 (a 2nd one).
William Anderson (W) oldest male 25 to 44 (a 3rd one).
Polly Anderson (W) oldest female 25 to 44.
Sam'l Anderson (W) 1 male 25 to 44, no females.

1810 Knox Co, Ky Census:
p.64, John Cole, 8 Other Free.
...........................
Not found in 1820 Illinois or Kentucky.

Still there on 1820 Logan Co., Ky Census:
William Cole, FPC, 2111-1212. He's 55 or older.
In 1830 Logan Co., Ky, 'a' William Cole, FPC, 36 to 55, has 1 white male 5 to 10 yrs old in his household.
...........................

1830 Lawrence Co., Ill Census, p.267:
Ezekiel Anderson, FPC 310100-320100.
Caleb Anderson, FPC 200100-211000.
Enoch Jones, FPC 110100-010100.
Judson Goin, FPC 201000-201000.
............................

1840 Lawrence Co., Ill Census, p.179:
Ezekiel Anderson, FPC 130100-331100.
............................

1850 Cass Co., Mich Census, Porter Twp; 30 July; Household 405:
Ezekiel ANDERSON, 59, m, M, Farmer, $100, SC.
Winnie..............., 53, f, M, Ky
Mary A.............., 25, f, M, Ill.
Matilda.............., 20, f, M, Ill.
Harriet..............., 19, f, M, Ill.
Winnie A............, 17, f, M, Ill.
Andrew J............, 15, m, M, Ill.
Adeline..............., 12, f, M, Ill.
Elles.................., 10, m, M, Ill.
Anson................, 8, m, M, Ill.
John STEWART, 33, m, B, NC.
....
Bill

Mystic1231
03-08-2007, 05:19 PM
Bill,

Thanks for the information. But I do have a question...

The question I have could Ezekiel been a slave of John Anderson in 1810 then 8 years later moved to IL.? Ezekiel is in the IL 1818 and 1820 IL census as FPC?

Thanks

Mystic1231

Bill Childs
03-10-2007, 05:17 PM
On the 1820 Edwards (parent county of Lawrence) Co., Ill Census, (these appear in a section which seem to list the ones left off the Federal census which were on the state census):

Ezekiel Anderson
Free White Males twenty one years old and upwards: 6.

Isaac Goen
Free White Males twenty one years old and upwards: 8.

The person who indexed this census left us a note:
"Thirty-six names are listed in the state but not in the federal census for 1820. Of these, however, fifteen families are "Free person of color" of which there is no list in the federal census though the summary indicates a total of seventy-five such persons."

Coupled with the census taker's note (below), one could speculate that there were 15 households containing 75 people or they were living in the backwoods.

The census taker left a note which might explain why not all inhabitants were found:
"Sir
Inclosed you will have the numbers of Inhabitance, of Different Classes residing in Edwards County, Taken as accurately aposibel I have Spared no pains nessasary In obtaining them. The County In many parts is thinly Setled. I have in Sum instances rode 12 or 15 miles with out a hous or Eavin a path to gide me But Bilive I have gethered up the fragments That there is none lost.
I am with Due respect Your most obedent
Scoby Stewart"

.................................................. .....
The county totals for 1820 don't seem to match either:

Heads of Families with all other White
males 21 years old and upwards Ttl 775.

All other White Inhabitants 2,570.
Free People of Collor 17.
Servants or Slaves 6.
.................................................. .....

Other names on this census listed elsewhere as non-whites:

Lewis Goin, 1 white male 21 and over, 2 other white inhabitants.
(Lewis Goen in 1818)
George Anderson, 3 white males 21 and over.
next one on the list is
Jasen Goen, 5 white males 21 and over.
Edward Goen, 2 white males 21 and over.
George Cole, 2 white males, 1 white male 21 and over, 5 people of color Free, and 1 people of color. (I'd assume the last is not free - and this count for George Cole begs the question of whether these are the servants and slaves listed in the county summary - but I really don't "know".)

As for your question above, I don't know if you have documentation to support the statement about Ezekiel. If not, I'd see if I could find out if the court records for this area still exist - see the Edwards Co., Ill genweb site.
....
Bill

Mystic1231
03-11-2007, 12:34 AM
Bill,

There is no information or documents of Ezekiel being a slave of John's. I am just searching all possibilities. I have been searching since Dec. and have received a lot of ifs, buts, maybe...etc. Any information that I receive I will be happy with it.

I thought I would try here because some of my names are here.

Thanks

Valerie

Mystic1231
04-15-2007, 12:24 PM
Just received some information from U.S. National Archives & Records on Anderson Cole Eastern Cherokee Application.

Anyone wish to know anything let me know

Valerie

Wachinika
04-15-2007, 12:51 PM
These are such popular names it could affect many people here and serve as an educational tool for others. If you have time I'd like to know the process you followed to receive your information.:)
Dianne

Bill Childs
04-15-2007, 12:57 PM
Sure, would you list the information on it here?

Mystic1231
04-15-2007, 01:48 PM
Everyone,

You must order NATF Forn 83 for each file that you request.

Write a letter to request forms to: (as many as you need)

Old Military and Civil Records (NWCTB)
Textual Archives Services Division
National Archives and Records Administration
700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20408-0001

After you receive your forms the instructions will be attached. Each file/request is $17.50.

You can also go here

http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/native-americans-guion-miller.html

to find your names and the roll #'s

Good Luck,

Valerie

Wachinika
04-15-2007, 02:23 PM
Thank you for the detailed instructions.

What did you find out about your Anderson Cole Eastern Cherokee Application?

Mystic1231
04-15-2007, 02:25 PM
I am having a problem uploading the Anderson Cole files. It seems that my files are to large. Can someone tell me what to do. It is to much to retype.

Thanks

Val

Wachinika
04-15-2007, 02:37 PM
I think you could right click the file on your computer & check the file size. If it's under 100 KB (anything MB would be over). You could copy and paste in Word and break the file into smaller ones if it's more than 100 KB. I think it might work to:

click "manage attachments" at the bottom of the post page, then

click "browse" button to the right of "Upload Files From Your Computer"

go through and find it as it comes up, then

click "Upload" and watch the middle message box to see when it is done.

It doesn't show up under Preview Post but does when you click Submit Reply.

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 03:46 PM
These are such popular names it could affect many people here and serve as an educational tool for others. If you have time I'd like to know the process you followed to receive your information.:)
Dianne


Hello Dianne....I too have sent away to recieve numerous ECA's and other documents via NARA...it is relatively easy to do but time is of the essence as it appears that they will very soon be increasing their prices for all of their documents. You can DL the forms from online or call or snail mail them to order the proper forms...the form to recieve an Eastern Cherokee Application is called the NATF Form 83...the fee I paid for each was $17.50 and you must have the person's name/s and their ECA number...you can email NARA to recieve copies of the form by emailing them at: inquire@nara.gov or you can snail mail them at: Old Military and Civil Records (NWCTB) , Textual Archives Division, National Archives and Records Administration, 700 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. 20408-0001. You DO NOT send payment with the form once you recieve it, fill it out and mail it...they have a link where you can check on the status of your order and once they retrieve or locate the form, they will contact you for payment. Same goes for obtainign copies of old Civil War pension files and records...and the price for the entire file for war service is expected to go WAY up...from currently $37.00 for a full pension and land warrant and service file to an expected $125.00 EACH! The form for obtaining military files is form NATF 85. I highly recommend ordering any you wish to have NOW. On average it takes about 60 days to recieve a ECA once they recieve your request...for a full military pensioner's file it takes a bit longer...about 120 days but varies depending on the number of requests they have. I just recently myself ordered 3 more full pensioner's files and 5 ECA's...and am awaiting recieving those. DO check with others in yoru lines to discern who has ordered what...I'd hate to see anyoen order a duplicate if someone else already has it. As an FYI...the ECA's I ordered are for the following maternal ancestors of mine:
1. Eliza (Bowman) Cole
2. Logan Nichols
3. Nancy Jane (Gibson) Nichols
4. Louisa (Gibson) Perkins
5. Flora (Gibson) Nichols

The soldier's files I sent away for are from my paternal lines and are for:
1. Elijah Beeman
2. Harvey Whitacre
3. George Washington Sellars.

I already have copies of the following ECA's:
1. Newton Pee Nichols
2. Hayden Nichols
3. Dicey Nichols
4. Savory Joe "Jo" Nichols
5. Lawson "Los" Nichols
6. Sherman Nichols

I also have some transcriptions of a few other ECA's that don't coem to mind of the top of my head at the moment...feel free to email me your "short" list if you wish to inquire/order...I'll gladly post if I am aware of anyone else having a copy of it on any of the Myfamily.com sites I belong to.

Take great care...hope to learn more soon...and by all means, post what YOU have by way of applications etc...there is NO sense in others paying for data that someone else already has in their possession. Blessings~~~Laurie

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 04:35 PM
I am having a problem uploading the Anderson Cole files. It seems that my files are to large. Can someone tell me what to do. It is to much to retype.

Thanks

Val

Hey Val...do let me know if you cannot copy and paste the file here...I have a copy of a transcription of Anderson's ECA that I can post. Wish I knew you were ordering it...althought, it is oft times right nice to have the actual paper file with signatures and fingerprints on it as well. Take care~~~Laurie

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 04:48 PM
I just checked my files at MY site at Myfamily.com and noted that I also have either a transcription copy or teh actual ECA;s for these additional ancestors:
1. Kizziah Gibson
2. Ruben Mullins
3. Nancy Elizabeth Gibson
4. Polly Ann Nichols
5. Candy Nichols

Blessings~~~Laurie

Wachinika
04-15-2007, 05:05 PM
Laurie,
Thanks for all the info. What does ECA stand for?:confused:
Dianne

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 05:16 PM
Hello everyone....to reply to Dianne's Q fisrt: ECA = Eastern Cherokee Application. *grin* sorry girl for the lingo tossing.
Also have the following ECA's or transcriptions in my files:

1. Jahazy/a Cole
2. Shepherd Cole
3. Wallis Cole
4. Alonzo Cole (and minor CH)
5. Jesse Cole (and minor CH)
6. Chester A. Cole
7. Elbert Cole

The remaining one's I have are deep in my FTM files so that will take some serious hunting to locate and list them all here. I'll gladly take a peek for anyone if you share my ancestral tree/names...just message me here or email me. If any seem particularly pertinent to this forum I can post then or send a shared file...those that are actual scanned copies from the originals are largish files...the transcriptions are nice but take up less space and not all have been transcribed by myself or others who shared them with me/my family. I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone else who comes here and has other ECA's, if they too coudl list those that they have in their possession so that duplications do not occur....at (now price) of $17.50 each...it can get to be very costly. Blessings~~~Laurie

Mystic1231
04-15-2007, 05:50 PM
Hey Val...do let me know if you cannot copy and paste the file here...I have a copy of a transcription of Anderson's ECA that I can post. Wish I knew you were ordering it...althought, it is oft times right nice to have the actual paper file with signatures and fingerprints on it as well. Take care~~~Laurie

Thanks Laurie

I can not get mine to work. Please post what you have. Also post Sheperd Cole. Also I was wondering if anyone knows about a uncle of Anderson Cole
named Ezekiel Cole?

Val

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 06:12 PM
Here is a copy of a transcription for the Eastern Cherokee Application submitted by Anderson Cole:

" Recieved Aug, 1 1907

1. English Name: Anderson Cole

2. Town and post office: Ivyton

3. County: Magoffin

4. State: Kentucky

5. Date and place of Birth: Knox County, Ky Apr 25 1833

6. By what right do you claim to share? If you claim through more than one relative living in 1851, set forth each claim separately? Through my Father Jack Cole and my myself .

7. Are you married? yes

8. Name and age of wife or husband: Elizabeth Antrobus born in 1848, years old 57 when she died.

9. Give names of your father and mother, and your mother's name before marriage.

Father
English name: Jack Cole
Indian name: Cherokee
Mother
English name: Peggy Higgins
Indian name: Cherokee
Maiden name: Peggy Higgins

10. Where were they born?
Father: Buncomb Co, North Carolina
Mother: Richmond Virginia

11. Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time?
Father: Lee co Virginia
Mother: Richmond Virginia
12. Date of death of your father and mother?
Father: Mch 7th 1864
Mother: don't know
13. Were they ever enrolled for annuities, land, or other benefits? No

14. Name all your brothers and sisters, giving ages, and if not living , the date of death:
i. Mary E. Cole
ii. Emanuel Cole
iii. Alvira Cole
iv. John Cole
v. Harrison Cole
vi. Elizabeth Cole Born Oct 1838
vii. Thomas J. Cole 1831

15. Sate English and Indian names of your grandparents on both father's and mother's side, if possible:
My grandfather was John C. Cole, my grandmother was Cuzzie Cole.

16. Where were they born? North Carolina

17. Where did they reside in 1851, if living at the time? Don't know.

18. Give names of all their children and residence, if living ; if not living, give dates of deaths:
Luana Cole, Ezekiel Cole, Jack Cole, Charles Cole, Wm Cole, Wils Cole date of Deaths all unknown to me Except Jack Cole died Mac 7th 1864
Sir:
I hereby make application for such share as may be due my minor children of the fund appropiated by Act of Congress approved June 30, 1906, in accordance with the decree of the Court of Claims of May 18, 1905, and May 28, 1906, in favor of the Eastern Cherokees, and I ask that this be made part of my original application No. 31697
1. State your full name: Anderson Cole
2. Residence and post office: Ivyton
3. County: Magoffin
4. State: Kentucky
5. Date and place of birth: born April 25th 1833 Knox Co., Ky
6. Are you married: yes
7. Name and age of wife or husband: wife dead.
8. To what tribe of Indians, if any, does he or she belong: Cherokee
9. Names of all your children who were living on May 28, 1906:
1. W. J. Cole, age 18, 1889 May 30
10. Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: No
Remarks: signed Anderson Cole
16 Aug 1907
D B Galyer
My commission expires Mch 2, 1908
Affidavit

Personally appeard before me J. F. Atkeson and Augustus Arnett who, being duly sworn, on oath depose and say they were well acquaninted with Anderson Cole who makes the foregoing application and statement, and have known him for years and years, respectively, and know him to be the identical person he represents himself to be, and that the statements made by him are true, and they have no interest, whatever in this clain.
Signatures of Witnesses
J. F. Atkeson
Augustus Arnett
29th day of July 1907
Notary Public B W Higgins
Commision expires Mch 14th 1908
Affidavit:
Personally appeared before me J. W. Cole and Harrison Cole who, being duly sworn, on oath depose and say that they are well acquainted with Anderson Cole who makes the foregoing application and statement, and have known him for 30 years and 35 years, respectively, and know him to be the identical person he represents himself to be, and that on May 28, 1906, he had the children living as above set forth, and that the statements made by him are true, and they have no interest whatever in this claim.
signatures of Witnesses,
J W Cole
Harrison Cole
16th Aug 1907

Anderson Cole, being duly sworn and examind, deposes says:
My name is Anderson Cole: I was born in Know Co., Ky in 1833: I claim my Indian blood thru my father. I make no claim thru my mother: she was of dutch and French Descent: my father was born in N.C. in 1827; my father died in 1862. I think it was in Buncombe C. in 1787: my father died in 1862. My father claimed his Cherokee Indian blood thru both his father and mother; I think my grandmother's maiden name was Cuzzie Anderson. I never saw the grandparents thru whom I claim: My grandmother thru whom I claim died before I was born so I have been told. I don't know when my grandfather died. He died in Lawrence Co. Ky,.
I am unable to trace my Cherokee ancestry back farther than my grandparents.
I have an older sister who if living at the present time would be over a hundred years old. She was born in Lee Co. Va.
In 1835 I think my grandfather lived in Lawrence Co. Ky. my grandfather came to Kentucky from Tenn before I was born.
In 1835 I think my father and I lived in Lee Co, Va. In 1851 I think my grandfather was dead. In 1851 my father and I lived in Lee Co. Va.
I heard that my father and I lived with the Cherokees as members of the tribe. At the time of my birth 1855 neither my father or grandfather lived with the Cherokees.
None of the Ancestors thru whom I claim were ever held in bondage. None of the ancestors thru whom I claim were ever enrolled. none ever received any money or land as an Indian. None of my relatives ever went to the Indian Territory and received land there as an Indian.
Each of the grandparents thru whom I claim were three quarter Cherokee. My father was always a voter. I have always been regarded in the community in which I lived as being of Cherokee and white parentage.
signed Anderson Cole
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*Note: transcription generously provided to me by cousin Irene Cole and was apparently transcribed by another Cole cousin. My tree reflects that Anderson also went by the name of William Anderson Cole. Furthermore, I wonder about his maternity...as his siblings, Chaney (born 1832) and Mariah (born 1816) also filed (or had children file) an ECA and their mother was Katy nee Gibson.

Blessings~~~Laurie

Mystic1231
04-15-2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks this is the information that I have but could not post.

Val

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 06:49 PM
Here is a copy of my transcription of the Eastern Cherokee Application for Shepherd Cole. Take care~~~Laurie

" Recieved Feb. 1, 1907


1. English Name: Shepherd Cole

2. Indian Name: Cherokee

3. Residence: Gullett, Ky

4. Town and post office: Gullett

5. County: Magoffin

6. State: Kentucky

7. Date and place of Birth: Floyd County, Ky Feb. 24, 1849

8. By what right do you claim to share? If you claim through more than one relative living in 1851, set forth each claim separately?
I claim through my Father Charles Cole and my Mother Charlotte Cole also myself Sheperd Cole

9. Are you married? yes, twice 1st wife Nancy J Cole born. Sept. 10, 1851 Sy and died Dec. 6, 1905

10. Name and age of wife or husband: Deemas Patrick born Jan. 6, 1870 last wife

11. Give names of your father and mother, and your mother's name before marriage.

Father
English name: Charles Cole died July 14, 1878
Indian name: Cherokee
Mother
English name: Charlotte Cole died Oct 23, 1898
Indian name: Cherokee
Maiden name: Charlotte Cole

12. Where were they born?
Father: Lee County, Va
Mother: Kentucky
Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time?
Father: On Licking River in Floyd, Co. Ky
Mother: On Licking River in Floyd, Co. Ky
13. Date of death of your father and mother?
Father: July 14, 1878
Mother: Oct. 23, 1898

14. Were they ever enrolled for annuities, land, or other benefits? No

15. Name all your brothers and sisters, giving ages, and if not living , the date of death:
i. Wallis Cole B. July 14, 1847
ii. Sheperd Cole b. Feb. 24, 1849
iii. Apperson Cole b. Mar. 10, 1851, d. July 1901
iv. Nancy Jane Cole b. Jan 13, 1853
v. Meredith Cole b. Apr. 25, 1855, d. Apr 24, 1881
vi. Page Cole b. Dec. 31, 1857
vii. Cam Cole b. July 22, 1862, d. unknown

16. Sate English and Indian names of your grandparents on both father's and mother's side, if possible:
Wm Campbel was my Father's Father Louana Cole was my Father's mother. William Cole was my mother's Father. Biddy Collins was my Mother's Mother.

17. Where were they born? unknown

18. Where did they reside in 1851, if living at the time? Louana Cole lived in Tenn. in 1851 and Wm Cole lived in Floyd Co., Ky in 1851.

19. Give names of all their children and residence, if living ; if not living, give dates of deaths:
Louana Coles brothers and sisters: English name: John Cole, Charles Cole, Nancy Cole, Margret Cole, Polly Cole. All dead date of death unknown except Nancy died Dec. 16, 1906.
Wm Cole borhter and sisters"
English name: Kizziah Cole, Tiney Cole, Oma Cole, Mima Cole, George Cole, Charlotte Cole, John Cole, Sookey Cole and Hiram Cole.

Sir:
I hereby make application for such share as may be due my minor children of the fund appropiated by Act of Congress approved June 30, 1906, in accordance with the decree of the Court of Claims of May 18, 1905, and May 28, 1906, in favor of the Eastern Cherokees, and I ask that this be made part of my original application No. 31697
1. State your full name: Shepherd Cole
2. Residence and post office: Gullett, Magoffin Co., Ky
3. County: Magoffin
4. State: Kentucky
5. Date and place of birth: born Feb. 24, 1849 in Floyd Co., Ky
6. Are you married: yes, Twice
7. Name and age of wife or husband: 1st wife Nancy J. Cole b. Sept. 10, 1850
8. To what tribe of Indians, if any, does he or she belong: Cherokee
9. Names of all your children who were living on May 28, 1906:
i. Lois E. Cole, age 36, b. Sept 19, 1870 married G W Maddox 22 Dec 1887
ii. John Morgan Cole, age 25, b. Oct 23, 1881 marroed Emily Gullett 5 mar 1903
iii. Melsena(?) Cole, age 13, b. June 20, 1894
10. Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: No
Remarks:
I was married the 2nd time to Deemas Patrick Mch 1st. 1906. My Great Grand Father John Cole moved from North Carolina to Tennesse about 20 years ago or more. My grandfather William Cole came to Ky from Tenn about 100 years ago before 1830.
Affidavit

Personally appeard before me James M. Collins and Charles d Minix who, being duly sworn, on oath depose and say they were well acquaninted with Shepard Cole who makes the foregoing application and statement, and have known him for 33 years and 16 years, respectively, and know him to be the identical person he represents himself to be, and that in May 28, 1906, he had the children living as the above set forth, and that the statements made by him are true, and they have no interest, whatever in this claim.
Signatures of Witnesses
James M. Collins
Charles Minix
15th day of July 1907
Notary Public E. M. Howard
Commision expires Jan 17th 1910

Affidavit:
Personally swear that the foregoing statements made by me are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
Shepherd Cole
29th Jan 1907
commision expires Mch 13th 1908 B. W. Higgins N.P. W.C
Witnesses: Nelson Salyer known 55 years and Whitaker known 25 years.

Shepherd Cole, being duly sworn and examind, deposes says:
My name is Shepherd Cole: I was born in Floyd Co., Ky in 1849: I claim my Cherokee Indian blood thru both my father and mother: my father was born in Lee Co., Va. in 1827; my mother was born in Kentucky, I don't know the county. in 1826: my father got his Cherokee blood thru his mother : my father's mothers maiden name was Luana Cole: my father was illegitimate child and took the name of his mother: I have been told by my grandmother that she was born in Tenn or N.C. I don't know county. I do not know the year in which she was born; Luana Cole got her Indian blood thru both her father and mother: Her fathers name was John Cole: I don't remember her mothers name. I've heard from my grandmother that my great grandparents as members of the Cherokee tribe in N. C. I do not know when they lived with them or in what County of N. C. I do not know when my great grandpartnets died.
My mother claimed her Indian blood thru her father who was a brother of Luana Cole, my grandmother.
In 1835 my father lived in Lee Co., Va and my mother lived Ky. In 1851 I and my parents lived in Floyd Co. Ky. None of my ancestors were ever enrolled that I know of: none ever recieved any Indian money or land as an Indian: none of the ancestors thru whom I claim were ever held in bondage.: none of the ancestors thru whom I claim ever had a Indian name that I know of:
My grandfather thru whom I claim was a three fourth Cherokee. My grandmother Luana Cole was also a 3-4 Cherokee. All my ancestors have always been regarded as Cherokee Indian and English descent.
My mothers father moved from Tenn. to Ky before 1835.
Signed Shepherd Cole
#42247 Easter Bailey is the great grand daughter of Luana Cole;
#41518 Fielden Collins is my second cousin. His grandfather Tiny Cole is the brother to my mother.
#39993 Dorcus Nickles gardndmother Sucky Nickles was my mothers sister
#34765 Newton Cole is my first cousin. His grandfather's name was William Cole. "
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Wachinika
04-15-2007, 09:05 PM
I know you knew before requesting the records, were they accepted or denied? I've seen where they give the reason for denial.

Thank you for sharing, Laurie and Mystic.

BlondeyeLaurie
04-15-2007, 09:22 PM
Dianne...it has been my experience thus far that all of the claims were denied...the vast majority due to a "reason code" such as/similar to the following example from Sherman Nichols' ECA which was rejected and states: "Cousin of #16346 and claims through same ancestor". Jo Nichols' ECA has the exact same rejection comment as does Hayden Nichols' and Dicey Nichols' and too Newton P. Nichols'. It is my understanding that if ANYONE else from that same line/family applied before them then they would be met with rejection from the court of claims office....which strikes me as bogus and unsettling but who am I to say how things should have worked back then?! I personally have not seen an applications rejected because a person was deemed NON Native American but I hear tell it has happened before...I have also heard of other's beign rejected because they were not members of the exact tribe that they reportedly were a part of...meaning that perhaps they were not Cherokee but soem other tribe such as Creek or such. Perhaps someone else on board can better answer to the exactitudes of rejection reasons etc...thsu far I have only seen the "cousindry" rejections for those in my lines. Hope this answered your Q's...LOL. Take care~~~Laurie

Wachinika
04-15-2007, 09:57 PM
Yah, I've read some where the rejections of a GGrandson and his sister of a many G's Grandfather on my Mother's side being rejected for the same reason as his sister. I just like knowing how we got where we are. Some day one of us will apply and be accepted unless they change their policy about letting people in. I need to get busy on my sons' GGGrandmother. I once saw a listing for a family with the same names as hers on the western roles but her name was Luella and the name typed was Lula. I don't know how to go about addressing that. Do you order transcriptions of the original handwritten page I wonder? And the surname is very common. Then there would be 3 birth certificates to obtain, I think. Thanks for everything,
Dianne

Mystic1231
04-19-2007, 09:51 PM
Most ppl do feel certain that they were of Cherokee descent however there is also soem speculation that the matriarch (Cuzzie Anderson) may have been of another tribal lineage (perhaps Choctaw or Shawnee if I recall correctly?)
Blessings to you~~~Laurie


Laurie,

Would you share what information that you may have on the tribal lineage of Cuzzie?

Thanks,

Mystic1231

BlondeyeLaurie
04-19-2007, 10:57 PM
Laurie,

Would you share what information that you may have on the tribal lineage of Cuzzie?

Thanks,

Mystic1231

Hello Mystic...I do not have any factual information concerning Cuzzie's tribal lineage...as I mentioned, it is merely speculation on the part of other researchers. The "theory" if you want to call it that, is that she may have been from another tribe because if she were tribally a Cherokee herself...then her children would have followed the NA "rule" that they would be accepted into their matrilineal tribe as raised as such...the transverse (patrilineally) Nativity would be dismissed. Perhaps someone else on board can better explain how subsequent children were tribally identified? What I have heard has been via phone conversations from cousins. Take great care~~~Laurie

BlondeyeLaurie
04-25-2007, 12:52 PM
As I was browsing through some of my papers, I also came across the ECA for Adam G. Cole....wanted to add his name to my list of those that I already have copies or transcriptions of. Blessings~~~Laurie

Mystic1231
05-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has any pictures of the Coles and Andersons and if they would like to share? I have one of Amon.... Ezekiel's son.


Mystic1231

Faye
05-27-2007, 08:19 PM
Whoa Mystic! You hit the nail right on the head with Ezekial! When I read your post I was immediately mentally keyed in on one fellow in my tree: Ezekial Cole is how I had him indexed...this is what I have on his family:

Ezekial Cole (Anderson) was b: abt 1793 in Lincoln Co, NC; he was the son of John Charles "Jack" Cole and Cuzzie nee Anderson (ha!...lightbulb goes off here...he apparently took his maternal name it seems.) He was 1 of 8 children...number four in birth order of: Jackson "Jack" (1787), Charles (1789), William (1791...who also was reported to have used the Anderson as a given name rather than as a surname...perhaps it was his middle name?), Ezekial (1793), Mary (1795), Margaret (1797), Luana (1800) & Wilson (1803).

You are correct that this Ezekial is from Native ancestry...his brother William filed an Eastern Cherokee application under the name Anderson Cole (ECA # 31697). This line of Cole's MD into surnames: Gibson, Higgins, Watkins, Collins, Musgrove, Campbell. Numerous members of this line did file ECA's so their NA ancestry is pretty well established. Most ppl do feel certain that they were of Cherokee descent however there is also soem speculation that the matriarch (Cuzzie Anderson) may have been of another tribal lineage (perhaps Choctaw or Shawnee if I recall correctly?) At any rate....I thank you for sharng what you know of Ezekial...I had not examined his line at all...not knowing that he assumed his maternal surname....great job! If you wish for further information on Ezekial's siblings and their marriages and/or children...feel free to email me directly.
Blessings to you~~~Laurie

Hi Laurie:

Anderson Cole was a grandson of John Charles and Cuzzie Anderson Cole per his application 31697. He was the son of Jackson "Jack" and Peggy Higgins Cole. His application stated that he made claim through his father, who claimed Cherokee blood from both his father and mother. I have copies of several Cherokee applications. I've heard that Cuzzie might be Catawba, but nothing is positive.

I am descended from John and Cuzzie's son, William and Biddy Collins Cole, also I'm descended from their daughter, Luana Cole and William Campbell. Luana and William Campbell did not marry. William and Biddy's daughter, Charlotte married Luana and William Campbell's son, Charles. I'm also descended from William and his second wife, Rebecca Wadkins Cole.

BlondeyeLaurie
05-27-2007, 09:32 PM
Hello Faye....thank you so much for posting some of your family information...and yes, I did look in my notes and realize that Anderson Cole who filed his ECA was indeed the son of Jackson...as opposed to being the William Anderson Cole who was the brother to Jackson. Thank you for pointing out that clarification. Do you have any further information on Cuzzie and her potential Catawba connection? This line of Cole's can get mighty confusing for certain! Have you any info abt Margaret "Peggy" nee Higgins by dates or ancestry? I greatly appreciate any assistance in advance. Have a fine evening~~~Laurie

Connie B
06-02-2009, 02:49 PM
Just received some information from U.S. National Archives & Records on Anderson Cole Eastern Cherokee Application.

Anyone wish to know anything let me know

Valerie
Please let me know about the application of Anderson Cole.
Thanks,
Connie