Barnes,Rogers and Woodards

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Chwe'n,
I have all three plus Brown in my lines(Barnes,Rogers,Brown & Woodards)from Isle of Wight/Southhampton Counties as well as Northampton,Edgecombe/Halifax. Cheroenhaka (Nottoway).

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Mike

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Hello Mike!!!
My mother is a Rogers, my greatgrandmother was an Amason, my ggggrandmother was a Woodard and mygggggrandmother was a Barnes. I grew up in Edgecombe County. I am Nottoway too! Wonder how we connect to you? Do you have Sessoms in your lines? or Smith? just curious I have these to and they connect to the Nottoway too.....how about Moores?
Linda

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Oh I forgot to mention my gggrandmother was a Bailey!
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
I don't know of any Sessoms in my lines but I do have a Smith whose father was a Jenkins. I don't know of any Moores either,or Baileys. But Woodards,Rogers and Barnes yes.
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Mike

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Mike,
There are Baileys on Nottoway documents and of course Rogers too. The information that the Barnes are Nottoway is new to me since I just discovered my connection although I knew it had to be because we lived right there with the Barnes in Wilson County NC(apparently Edgecombe, Wilson and Nash were "pitstops" for many families but my family stayed there). When did you folks leave that area? and I wonder why too because it is and was an area that was deeply native. The truth is though my folks were trying to fit into the dominant society of the time they simply wanted to survive just like everyone else I guess. Do you descend from Edward Barnes and his wife Sarah Pope?
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
I'm going to have to look at my Barnes line again, the Nottoway have my genealogy,but I have a copy at home,I'll look at it tonight. Barnes came to Robeson County also. My people never left the Hertford/Bertie area,they are still there. I live in Robeson County NC though. I'm not saying that the Barnes are Nottoway, my Barnes are Tuscarora. I am Tuscarora/Nottoway. Did you know that Halifax County was part of Edgecombe at one time? You might want to check in Halifax for ancesters too.

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Mike

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Chwe'n Linda,
I do have Sessoms in my Wynn line,I was just looking at it. I did not realize this until now. Surry Va,Bertie,Hertford,Chowan,Edgecombe Counties NC.

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Mike

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Oh my God Mike I have Wynn in my Sessums line LOL The Sessums go back to the Smith's.......Sessums married into my Moore line who married into my Etheridge line who married the Pridgens and then my grandmother married a Rogers. The Woodards and Barnes on my Amason line. My greatgrandmother Sue Amasom married my great grandfather Alexander Rogers. You Mike are all over my family tree LOL In 1742 members of my Sessums family were called into court in Bertie County to prove their race (I guess someone called them out). They left Surry(Southampton) already mixed. I know I am Nottoway and pretty sure Tuscarora too.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
What is your Wynn line? We may be related.My Barnes line is married to Daniel line,from Edgecombe County N.C.

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Mike

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George Wynn and Rose HILL Bush their daughter Mary married Culmer Sessoms son of Thomas Sessoms and Elizabeth Smith. How do your Wynns connect to the Sessoms as I am sure this is the same line I pretty darn sure we are related. Also my Barnes were in Bertie County as well in fact most of my folks were.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
My same lines are yours. Do you have more information,Surry County,Bertie County,Edgecombe etc. I really don't have much on this line and would like to know more. You can email me off forum sometime with the family information and all,I would appreciate that. mdsmokedancer@yahoo.com

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Mike

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Mike,
I really do not know alot about this branch of Wynn because my connection was early on. I had assumed they were still "white" when they married into my Sessoms. I did however know that they had became mixed bloods because some of my first cousins mother is a Wynn and she claims native bloodlines and looks to be part native. Mike our folks tried hard to survive and there choice was to join the dominat race of that time they saw this as the way to survive. Although they did this they still taught many native ways through the generations and told us we were native. My family seems to have married people of mixed birth for many generations because mine are some of the strongest bloodlines in the county even with me having a white father. We were told don't you forget were you come from. When I walk on the land were I grew up I can feel our ancestors there it's like they want me to remember too. Remember who you are don't forget us we did what we did for you. The people of Edgecombe County have been called docile and peaceable people. People of solitude and suspicious of outsiders. People who idle away their time with family and friends. It is in those times of idleness that we talk of the past and remember. We are proud and honorable people. We have love and kindness in our hearts we have a deep love of all things native and a respect for the ones who kept the old ways. The older generation believes we cannot go back and grab that which our ancestors walked away from but my generation and the younger one want the world to know who we are. We do not wish to deny our white bloodlines but we want all to know we are native too. We just are you know what I mean Mike?
Linda

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Mike,
I am thinking your Barnes are my Barnes too what is the Tuscarora connection because every Barnes i have known in Edgecombe claim indian blood and that is were we married into them. I did find a Barnes who married a Daniel in my family tree so I am thinking we are the same line here too. What do you know about the Woodards? As for the Rogers my ggrandfather was Alexander his father was John and his father was John Adams Rogers he was born around 1814 in NC then I hit a brick wall. Adams is a Tuscarora name isn't it...as is Rogers but Rogers is also Nottoway. I saw a John Rogers was selling parts of Indian Woods in 1777 I think it was but there was also an Alexander Rogers on the 1808 Nottoway census. But then in 1764 in Edgecombe County a Robert Rogers marries Ann Woods I can't find a record of his children. In 1790 there was a Jesse, Trusse and Daniel Rogers living close to each other I bet they were brothers. There was a Wiliam and William Jr there too. What is your line with your Robert Rogers?
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
My Barnes ,comes through Sarah Barnes of Edgecombe County. My Rogers line is from Elizabeth Rogers from Virginia whose father was Robert Rogers from the Southampton County area. There are Rogers among the Tuscarora and Nottoway,but you see both are Iroquois and intermarried. My Daniel line is from Edgecombe and Halifax Counties NC. Halifax was made from Edgecombe. My Wynns married Sessums and then married Dunns.,Hertford County area. My Parkers were from Nansemond County Va,Gates ,Hertford,Bertie,Chowan,Northampton,Granville Counties NC. My Woodards were from VA and NC. The Woodards are Nottoway also. Isle of Wight/Southampton Counties VA and Northampton,Halifax,Edgecombe Counties NC.

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Mike

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Yep Mike same Barnes! Ok you are in my Wynn line, my Sessoms line and now my Barnes line. I think that makes us cousins! :) Care to put a bet on the Rogers? LOL and the Woodards? LOL Btw there are many Dunns in Pinetops NC in southern Edgecombe County near the Wilson County line. They are friends of the family. Since you have Sessoms you also have Smith.....these folks came out of what was then Surry Co (but now Southampton). Do you by chance have Grays or Webbs? I have a Gray cousin on this forum who is looking for his roots he lives in Southampton and is ndn too. I have another cousin too a Webb who lives in Florida now but looking for his roots to and well you know he is ndn too both are member of this forum. My Webb cousin sent me an email today from the Tuscarora yahoo group and I see you post there too.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
Eh-heh(yes) I post there also,I am one of the moderators. It does look like we are kin. I was just tracing my Shepherd lines,and have gotten back to 1818 in Louisa Co. Va. Do you have Shepherds? My Shepherd(ggrandfather) married Sarah Brown from Isle of Wight/Southampton Counties Va. We need to get together,do you ever come to NC?

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Mike

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Chwe'n Linda,
I have never seen Grays or Webbs in my lines,but who knows,where do they come in on your lines?

Oo-neh
Mike
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Mike,
The Grays were from Newsums in Southampton. They come into my lines in the early 1700's. The Webb's come into my lines in the late 1800's in Edgecombe County. The Webb's married into several of my lines in fact. By the way my Gray cousin has Barnes in his lines too! And I was in NC last month but it was not a happy time it was a death in my family, my uncle. :( The father of my cousins whose mother is a Wynn. I have thought about coming home this summer, maybe.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
I live outside of Pembroke NC on Iroquois Territory - land set aside by one of the Tuscarora Bands here,all dirt roads,nice,peaceful. Maybe we can get together if you come up.

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Mike

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Nope no Shepherds here well not yet. I am still interested in knowing when the Tuscarora entered the Wynn family and the Barnes. I know the Wynns were in NC in the 1600's. With all of this and knowing what I was told when I was a child I am sure I am Nottoway and Tuscarora. MY grandfather was a very bitter man, Mike. He acted as though he had lost so much and had such a deep sorrow in him you could see it in his eyes. He had such pride it was unbelievable at times. I am beginning to understand him more now. He drank I guess to wash that sorrow away. I wish he was still living so I could talk to him again and learn more from him but when I was younger he seemed so mean I ran from him . My grandmother was the complete opposite.......
Linda

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Mike,
About the Woodards I have Delanah Woodard marrying Issac Amason in Edgecombe County her father was Elisha Woodard Sr. of Isle Of Wight, Va. He was born in 1734. Could this be your Woodards also?

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We also have a real puzzle in my grandmothers line. We have aRebecca born around 1808 with no other information on her just a dead end. She married Thomas Etheridge and serious family history of native lines comes from this marriage. From Thomas's family history it appears he was native too. I also have Robbins in this branch of my tree. My Moores married Sessoms, Robbins, Etheridges and all of these families are said to have native bloodlines. I know my Etheridges (several of them) headed south some stopped in Robeson County others went on into Alabama and texas. When they got to Alabama they started marrying intot he Creeks down here. My greatgrandmother Nancy Moore married a white man named Andrew Pridgen. My grandmother then married a Rogers. Their daughters have maried Bakers, Lynchs, Williams, Wooten, Tant, Brown and Davenport. I am a Davenport. MY father was Completely English and totally white what can I say..can't deny it.no way no how. Other than my Tant uncle the others are mixed blood men. My uncle who was a Lynch was from Halifax County (Saponi). The only ones I know sure were white in my lines are Andrew Pridgen and my father. The others were definitely not or either their lines are so suspect it is hard to say. BTW do you have any Taylors? Guess I need tor esearch my Taylor line some more. Mike when they came to the Edgecombe area they clustered together. I started seeing many folks heading south in my families in 1700 and 1800's. In fact most did but we stayed who knows why. Have you ever heard of any Ruffins? Did I tell you the Dunns are family friends...I'm surprised we didn't marry into them too LOL
By the way the Daniel family were witnessing deeds with my Woodards too. So it's apparent they all knew each other! I have found people who had one of the same bloodlines as me never have I found someone with three( for me Mike this is way cool) Hey my Webb cousin said he asked you about groups or something? Never know what that boy is doing LOL he's 28 and gun-ho.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
I have a Elisha Woodard in my line from Isle of Wight Co. VA.
I also believe that I have seen Taylor before,I'll have to check again.
Oo-neh
Mike
Oo-yeh'-gweh Neh-gah'-gwah'

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Mike,
Will now that is probably 4 Wynn, Sessoms, Barnes, Woodard. Two of them are from my grandmother and 2 from my grandfather and well ALL of them are my mother! I told my sister about Delanah Woodard and she goes well that's what all the stories about her come from. For some reason Delanah has been a topic of discussion among our Amason line. Hey do you think you can help me figure out my Rogers? As i said before my great grandparents were Alexander Rogers and Sue Amason. They probably connect to your Rogers too.
Linda

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ok Mike how about Bryant? Braswell? Surry/Isleof Wight/ Bertie/Edgecombe

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How about Dew, Pope,Powell? Isle of wight(Southampton) Nansemond, Bertie, Edgecombe

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Do you know anything of a Fiveash Barnes? This is a sibling to my Patience Barnes....The name caught my eye.

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Chwe'n Linda,
I don't know of any Bryant,Braswell,Dew,Pope and Powell surnames in my family. Fiveash is a surname that at one time was among the Robeson County Tuscarora, Demsey Fiveash,he and others migrated from the Northeastern NC area. Fiveash Barnes could be in my Barnes line. His mother was Patience Barnes? Who was his father? I will have to check this out.

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Mike
Oo-yeh'-gweh Neh-gah'-gwah'
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Mike,
FiveAsh Barnes was a brother to my Patience Barnes. Edward Barnes was their father.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
And their mothers name and surname?

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Mike

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Their mother was Sarah Pope. Their grandfather was James Barnes from Isle of Wight and his wife Sarah (no surname) my guess is she was a Fiveash.

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Edwards children married into many families whose names I see on the southern band of Tuscarora surname site.
Linda

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Also Mike Sarah and Patience Barnes married Amason men we have been unable to find out where the Amason came from before being in NC.Amson doesn't sound like a name a native would chose does it?

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The Pope were from Nottoway Parish in Sounthampton

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Mike this is starting to look a bit bizarre. All my families on my mothers side seen to end up in Southampton very near the reservation.
Linda

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There are so many wives in these lines without surnames it's overwhelming especially early on.
Linda

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Chwe'n Linda,
I am going to check my Barnes lines now and see what I find.

Oo-neh
Mike

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Linda,
Thanks for helping me with my genealogy. I know that as long as my family has been in that area we have to have more in common than just our Webb lines. I know my family has to have multiple native lines because we are pretty darn NDN, looks, attitude and all! Oh, and my grandma can hold a grudge! LOL

Mike,
I'm sure this means that I would tie in with some of your lines too, in addition to via Linda. We all know how our people tend to stick together and keep that NDN blood going.... (Linda says that Wilson/ Edgecombe is a "BI-racial" ISOLATE, and I agree to the full extent of the term LOL). On a side note do you know of any good sources on Iroquois social and smoke dancing (videos, CD's, etc)?

Oo-neh,

David

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Eh-heh Linda,
I'm one of the moderators there.

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Hi Linda,

Wow, no one's been in this chat room for a while! I figured there would be more of us Barnes' chatting!

I was going back through my Barnes line today, and remembered I have this Edward Barnes and Sarah Pope connection that I've not done much digging into yet. I'm wondering if anyone else has looked into this Pope line yet?

Best Regards,
Four Cats