Richard Shelby
12-22-2001, 12:28 AM
Hi.. Being new to this site I'm not even sure if I have the correct forum. Hopefully someone will be able to offer some guidance. However it goes here it goes:
My first research for Indian ancestors began with a Sarah Elizabeth Mahan, wife of Robert Carter Hamlett. She was born abt. 1870 in MOrgan Co. AL. Her father Joseph came from (I thnk) TN. Her mother was named Betsy Clendenen. Betsy just fades away after about 1860.
According to family lore Sarah Elizabeth Mahan was either 1/4 or 1/2 Cherokee or Choctaw. My mother can remember clearly sitting on a porch with her grandmother Sarah and an aunt when the two were discussing an application to the Dawes Rolls. Sarah threw the papers away with the comment "..I don't want any part of that dirty savage land".
Sarah's sisters married into an Arnold family and the Widener family. I have a magazine article from the 19th century in which the Indian ancestry of the Mahans is mentioned. The reporter in this instance remarked about the physical characteristics of the Mahan sisters resembling those of Indians.
Two other details leading me to belive the connection may be real are:I have an elderly aunt who bears strong some physical characteristics of the stereotyped Indian. In fact when she was a baby an Indian family in OK wanted to raise her as their own.
The other stems from a story allegedly told Sarah by her grandmother (or mother) and passed on down. The woman was being hunted by white men. To escape them she hid in a tree. She had a baby with her and found it necessary to keep it qite.
Connection #2. This stems from my father's line.
Taken from an application by John M. Tucker.
Consene was a full blood Cherokee. His son John was raised by a man named Ned Tucker and apparently adopted the name of Tucker. Both Consene and John married white women.
John had several brothers and sisters who shared the same father but not the same mother. These kids went by the name of Walkingstick. One, Jim Walkingstick shared the same mother with John. (That one has me stumped a little.)
John had a son named John M. Tucker. I'm not clear at the moment but I think it was one of his kids that married into the Tally family which is where I come in.
Now Pryor Tally married an Elizabeth Henson. Elizabeth Henson was a Walkingstick. That or her mother had been of the Walkingstick familyh. The kids or grandkids of Pryor married into the Tucker clan.
The Tucker, Pryor and related research is from an e-mail cousin. What I'm doing is trying to connect, prove and add to what she has done.
All of this took place in the early 1800s and quite possibly even the late 1700s. Locations were Cherokee Co NC, Gilmer Co GA, and Pickens Dist TN.
Does anyone recognze any of these names? Any suggestions?
My first research for Indian ancestors began with a Sarah Elizabeth Mahan, wife of Robert Carter Hamlett. She was born abt. 1870 in MOrgan Co. AL. Her father Joseph came from (I thnk) TN. Her mother was named Betsy Clendenen. Betsy just fades away after about 1860.
According to family lore Sarah Elizabeth Mahan was either 1/4 or 1/2 Cherokee or Choctaw. My mother can remember clearly sitting on a porch with her grandmother Sarah and an aunt when the two were discussing an application to the Dawes Rolls. Sarah threw the papers away with the comment "..I don't want any part of that dirty savage land".
Sarah's sisters married into an Arnold family and the Widener family. I have a magazine article from the 19th century in which the Indian ancestry of the Mahans is mentioned. The reporter in this instance remarked about the physical characteristics of the Mahan sisters resembling those of Indians.
Two other details leading me to belive the connection may be real are:I have an elderly aunt who bears strong some physical characteristics of the stereotyped Indian. In fact when she was a baby an Indian family in OK wanted to raise her as their own.
The other stems from a story allegedly told Sarah by her grandmother (or mother) and passed on down. The woman was being hunted by white men. To escape them she hid in a tree. She had a baby with her and found it necessary to keep it qite.
Connection #2. This stems from my father's line.
Taken from an application by John M. Tucker.
Consene was a full blood Cherokee. His son John was raised by a man named Ned Tucker and apparently adopted the name of Tucker. Both Consene and John married white women.
John had several brothers and sisters who shared the same father but not the same mother. These kids went by the name of Walkingstick. One, Jim Walkingstick shared the same mother with John. (That one has me stumped a little.)
John had a son named John M. Tucker. I'm not clear at the moment but I think it was one of his kids that married into the Tally family which is where I come in.
Now Pryor Tally married an Elizabeth Henson. Elizabeth Henson was a Walkingstick. That or her mother had been of the Walkingstick familyh. The kids or grandkids of Pryor married into the Tucker clan.
The Tucker, Pryor and related research is from an e-mail cousin. What I'm doing is trying to connect, prove and add to what she has done.
All of this took place in the early 1800s and quite possibly even the late 1700s. Locations were Cherokee Co NC, Gilmer Co GA, and Pickens Dist TN.
Does anyone recognze any of these names? Any suggestions?