Possible Saponi Surnames

[barryc]

As we build data from this thread we will develop a searchable database of Saponi surnames. I am transferring surnames over from emails received

[barryc]

From: cdu1041689@aol.com
Date: Thu Aug 31, 2000 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Brunswick Co. Indian Names


Here is a list of names that was taken from the Federal Census 1810 for the
community of Free Town in Brunswick County.

Samuel Batten
Pleasant Bugg
Betty Crook
James Dabney
Benjamin Edmunds
Jack Hill
Fanny Hicks
James Jones
James Jones ( I am assuming Jr but he's listed 2ce)
Moses Jones
Samuel Jones
Robert Jones
Abednigo Jones
Earius Jones
Anthony Jones
Topsail Jones
Sterling Lawrence
Frederick Meredith
Toby Merritt
?illy Mathews
Thos Mathews
Luke Mathews
Dilcy Moss
Dick Merritt
Nathaniel Owen
Pompy Pelham
Betty Parriss
?arri Stith
John Walker
Cupid Walker
Peggy Walker
Dick (?) Wilson
Adam Abram
Arthur Allen
Peter Bolling
Daniel Cain
Peter Cain
Henry Cain
Welshire Easter
Peter Faggan
Edward James
Robert James
Charles Merritt
James Merritt
John Mason
Aaron Newsom
Wm Pompey*
Toyall (?) Porter
Abraham Robins
Adam Robins
Wm Stewart*
Dempsey Stewart*
Roger Turnable
Joseph Ward
Mary Pompey*
Becky Pompey*
Molly Roberts
Frank Atkins
Gilvy Soward
Patience Harrison


Copied from Register of Free Negros 1803-1850, Brunswick County, VA

These are all heads of households listed as Inhabitants of Free Town. Note
that some of these names are also well known and documentated names from the
Occaneechi Tribe. I have marked these names with an *.

The name of Mathews is a prominant name in the "Portuguese Communities" of
Greensville and Northampton Counties.


Poythress is another common name associated w/ the Free Persons of Color or
Portuguese Communites. As well as Turners, Bass, Scotts, Peters and a few
Jarrells. Obviously, these small communities were at one time one large
settlement that eventually split into quite a number of smaller towns. All of
the names listed on this posting are found on both sides of the state line
between NC and VA. Mostly in Brunswick, Greensville and Mecklenburg Counties
VA and Northampton County, NC. Some can be found as far south as Wilson
County NC and Sumter County SC to eventually spread throughout the Southeast
and Mid-west.

Again Barry, I will document all the small settlements and their inhabitants
for Brunswick as well as Greensville counties with prominant surnames that we
know of to possibly show dispersal of the communities.

Crystal http://winwinworldnet.90.uslive.net/SaponiForum/UBB/smile.gif

[barryc]

> I am working on compling a list of Indian names in Brunswick co. Does
> anyone else have other names to add to this list.
>
> Wesson
> Green
> James
> Walker
> Easter
> Jones
Banks
Valintines
Coles or Cole or Coley
Macklin

>
> Some of these are from oral sources, however, this is just preliminary.
>
> Barry


[This message has been edited by barryc (edited 04-24-2001).]

[barryc]

For example the following names are from neigbhoring Mecklenburg co and I am highly confident that there is native American ancestry in these families based upon facial features, other connections and/or culture:

House
Andrews
Crutchfield
Bowers
Harris
Coles
Darden

The following are names I have heard of Hillsborough Occaneechi as Saponi:

Stewart
Easter
Liggon
Chavis
Jeffies

[Saponi 1]

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[Linda]

Thanks for posting all this. I'm so glad to see you onboard, I know how much you have to contribute.

[barryc]

Emma:

I have a ggg Grandfarther Godrey Shelton from Mecklenburg Co (I think) around 1830. This may connect with your shelton. I'll have to do some digging on the other info. Crystal does any of this ring a bell with you.

Barry

[This message has been edited by barryc (edited 05-08-2001).]

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

Saponi1,

Have you read the book written by Jack Goins. I recieved my personal copy about a year ago. He has done a lot of research in the area of Granville Co. where the 1750&55 tax list gave the names of several mullato living along the Flatt River.

1750 Tax List Granville Co. NC

Thomas Collins Sr.

Samuel Collins ( all three lived on the Flatt River )

John Collins

1755 Flatt River near Va/NC border (became Orange Co NC )

Thomas Collins mulatto

Samuel Collins mulatto

John Collins mulatto

Now if I remember it correctly Moses Riddle married the daughter of old Thomas Collins. I will look this up to make sure I am stating this correctly and if I am wrong I will make the correction. The book is still in print and can be ordered through Jack at
jgoins@usit.net

Brenda Collins Dillon

[bkemp]

This is interesting as my wife's families are all listed....Mathews,Jarrell,Turner,Bass,Scott and Poythress. She has many 'dark' individuals in her family and all are from Greensville Co., Va and according to the census records they are from the Portughese community. I have traced her mother's Jarrells to a Vincent Jarrell b c 1795 and a Prura(Plura) Goins(Going)b c 1805 all living in the Littleton District of Halifax Co, NC.
She and her family were all listed as mulatto but all the surrounding families including the Jarrells were listed as white.
Would love to learn more about Plura's and Vincent's families and their relationship to the Saponis if any. Also would like to understand better the difference between the Haliwa-Saponi and the Occaneechi-Saponi.

[barryc]

All of the Indians living in Piedmont VA and NC are likely of Saponi or mixed Saponi orgins including the Occaneechi and . We are all cousins!

Barry

[Linda]

Wow, Bkemp, you and Crystal are definetely cousins.

[Saponi 1]

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[Randy]

BarryC
you mention Stewart under this list of surnames - please see my new posting of March 26, 2004 under
Stewart OR Stuart - Share History Research
Do any of you have Stewart ancestors?
thanks Randy

[Tom]

Hey Barry nice to see you are here!
The one name that iam very surprized to see listed is Darden, this is a very classic lower MS river valley name with almost exclusive Indian connexions.
I know that many of the eastern seaboard tribes, when dienfranchised by VA/NC moved enmasse to La/ Tx and are still there.
Iam sure we'll eventually be hearing from them.

[Hana]

Jackson, Cooper and probably Young -- and they do seem to originate in VA/NC

But where I really seem to find the most family surnames, (Hughes, Moore, Jackson, and others) the ones on our direct line and that show up multiple times, is on the lists of Indian Traders. Guess that's our family connection. Don't know what to do with that info, though.

[janette]

From: cdu1041689@aol.com
Date: Thu Aug 31, 2000 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Brunswick Co. Indian Names


Here is a list of names that was taken from the Federal Census 1810 for the
community of Free Town in Brunswick County.

Samuel Batten
Pleasant Bugg
Betty Crook

James Dabney
Benjamin Edmunds
Jack Hill
Fanny Hicks
James Jones
James Jones ( I am assuming Jr but he's listed 2ce)
Moses Jones
Samuel Jones
Robert Jones
Abednigo Jones
Earius Jones
Anthony Jones
Topsail Jones
Sterling Lawrence
Frederick Meredith
Toby Merritt
?illy Mathews
Thos Mathews
Luke Mathews
Dilcy Moss
Dick Merritt
Nathaniel Owen
Pompy Pelham
Betty Parriss
?arri Stith
John Walker
Cupid Walker
Peggy Walker
Dick (?) Wilson
Adam Abram
Arthur Allen
Peter Bolling
Daniel Cain
Peter Cain
Henry Cain
Welshire Easter
Peter Faggan
Edward James
Robert James
Charles Merritt
James Merritt
John Mason
Aaron Newsom
Wm Pompey*
Toyall (?) Porter
Abraham Robins
Adam Robins
Wm Stewart*
Dempsey Stewart*
Roger Turnable
Joseph Ward
Mary Pompey*
Becky Pompey*
Molly Roberts
Frank Atkins
Gilvy Soward
Patience Harrison



Copied from Register of Free Negros 1803-1850, Brunswick County, VA

These are all heads of households listed as Inhabitants of Free Town. Note
that some of these names are also well known and documentated names from the
Occaneechi Tribe. I have marked these names with an *.


The name of Mathews is a prominant name in the "Portuguese Communities" of
Greensville and Northampton Counties.


Poythress is another common name associated w/ the Free Persons of Color or
Portuguese Communites. As well as Turners, Bass, Scotts, Peters and a few
Jarrells. Obviously, these small communities were at one time one large
settlement that eventually split into quite a number of smaller towns. All of
the names listed on this posting are found on both sides of the state line
between NC and VA. Mostly in Brunswick, Greensville and Mecklenburg Counties
VA and Northampton County, NC. Some can be found as far south as Wilson
County NC and Sumter County SC to eventually spread throughout the Southeast
and Mid-west.

Again Barry, I will document all the small settlements and their inhabitants
for Brunswick as well as Greensville counties with prominant surnames that we
know of to possibly show dispersal of the communities.

Crystal http://winwinworldnet.90.uslive.net/SaponiForum/UBB/smile.gif

Hi everyone!

At last back on line and in Hot Springs, South Dakota. Took a day off from making pottery to do a bit more research and say Happy New Year!

Think this time i have found something of interest.

Just found the parents of James Allison Love, (Reid Gold Mine). And his mother is none other than Betty Crook. (records show Elizabeth also). Also found a Crooks web site with birth records etc... the family talks about a g g grandmother that put "whiting" on her face to cover her dark skin! They claim being part Native American.

My linage is direct:

James Allison Love/Mary Elizabeth Ingram

Nancy Love/Eli Howell

Narcissus Emeline Howell/Alfred(Alford) Joseph Carr

Georgia Ann Savannah /Carr/Sprayberry

Elizabeth Tipton/Alford Sprayberry

Ada Sprayberry (my grandmother)


James Allison Loves father was James Love (B. 1720) with land sales in common with James Crook and sometimes Elizabeth. (Brunswick - book 7 Page 260 on 2-27-1762).

Anyway just thought i would share the fun an maybe others have similar interest.

Bill I am sure you will ask for dates and places but things are not unpacked yet but can get them for everyone soon. The big snow has given me a break!.

Janette

PS: tried to shorten the quote but need more direction. For the moderator please feel free to edit for me. thanks

[Cathy Martin]

Could Joseph Ward be a relative of Nancy Ward, the Cherokee? CLMartin:)