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ShannonE
02-27-2005, 09:24 AM
I am looking for information on my G G Grandmother, Dora Alice (Meadors or Meadows) Carter. She was born on 04-16-1879 and died on 07-13-1961. She married Dempsy Albert Carter sometime around 1895-1899 in Whitley County Kentucky or Williamsburg KY. We have been told that Dora was a full-blooded Blackfoot indian; however, we do not know the name of her parents. Also, I can't find a social security or birth record on her. The first time she appearce in the Kentucky Census record in is 1920, when she was already married at the age of 41. Can anyone help. I would love to find out if she was indeed a Blackfoot Indian. I myself, do not look as though I have indian, but my sister got the indian traits. Dempy and Dora Carter - Both full-blooded indians, had a son named: Bluford Harrison Carter (1/1 indian) who married an Irish woman. They had a son named Donald Verdie Carter (1/2 indian) who Married a German woman. Together they had 8 children, one was my mother Kathy Carter (1/4th indian) and she gave birth to two girls. Myself and my Sister. It would seem that I got more traits from the German and Irish and my sister got more from the indian. We should each have 1/8th indian, but we have not done a DNA test.

Bill Childs
02-28-2005, 01:18 AM
Hi Shannon, Welcome to the Forum,
I found them in 1930 Whitley Co, 1920 Bell Co and 1900 Pulaski Co, where they were listed as married 4 yrs which would put their marriage in about 1896. For the sake of your documentation I would like to find them in 1910 also, but that appears to be a trip to the dentist to pull teeth.

Dora A. MEADORS's parents are Middleton Meadors, b.abt. 1856 Ky, and Martha E. _?_., b.abt. 1858 Ky. Middleton's father is Alex (Alen?) Meadors, b.abt. 1831 Ky, and his mother may be Nancy _?_, b.abt. 1829 Ky.
(My caveat is that Nancy was not in Alex's household in 1870, but was there in 1860 and 1880. She may be a relative who came in and helped take care of the kids, she was left off of the 1870 census, or she was a second wife - there being a 5 year "break" between the ages of the last and next to last child - don't know yet.)

I haven't had the chance to look for Dempsey in 1880 but did find Dora's family line back to 1860 Whitley Co. I haven't picked up the trail in 1850. The older MEADORs in Whitley Co., are from NC and I'll try to develope this further and post whatever I find.

As for determining whether Dora or Dempsey were Blackfoot, you/we may need to trace these lines back into the 1700s to find out but there are CARTERs and MEADOR/MEADOWs who are Eastern Sioux, AND, having a family history of being "Blackfoot" and with your people coming from Kentucky, would "beg the question" if you weren't.
I'd recommend you read thru the "History..." portion of the forum and use the "search" button up on the upper right for "carter" and "Meadors"/"Meadows" and read thru those results to get a feel for the degree of diffuculty.
Again, Welcome to the Family.
Bill

Dreaminghawk
02-28-2005, 09:09 PM
Welcome to the forum, cuz...... I am the reason for all the Meadows threads.;-)..... if we can track yours back to old Granville co, NC in late 1700s and early 1800s then you will connect to mine. I have a paper file on every Meadows I can find in the area. All evidence suggests they were migrating with and marrying other families that probably became mixed-bloods in Va in late 1600s and early 1700s........ can't prove it, though ....
Again, welcome to the family

ShannonE
03-03-2005, 07:33 PM
Thanks Bill and Dreaminghawk for you replies. I did find Dora's father, but I had it as Middlelo, not Middleton. This will make if easier. I did not have her mother. Thanks again for the help.:)

ShannonE
03-03-2005, 07:46 PM
Bill,

I forgot! I was just told that Dora's mothers Maiden name was Hinkle(Hinkel)Hincle...not sure of the spelling. So it should be Martha E. Hinkle.
Shannon

Bill Childs
03-03-2005, 10:45 PM
Shannon,
I've ran the Meadors (Meadows before 1860) back pretty far and I'll try to get that posted tomorrow.
Here's some of it.......
Alexander Meadors/Meadows's wife Nancy, was Nancy Sego, dau of James Sego/Seago, b. 22 Dec 1777 Anson Co., NC. James's parentage is in dispute among those researchers, but his parents may be Abraham Seago, b. 6 Feb 1757 Wueen Ann Parish, Maryland, m'd Margaret _?_.
James Sego m'd Sarah Ann Holt but there is a discrepancy here that I haven't been able to resolve immediately, so don't take this to the bank.
Nancy Sego Meadors/Meadows, b. abt. 1821/22, alledgedly died in 1869. That's a good reason for her not being in their 1870 household. So, the Nancy Meadors, b. 1821 shown on the 1880 census with Alexander's children is a different Nancy, same age as the first wife, or she is the first wife, still living. Don't know yet.

Look for the Meadows/Meadors in Whitley Co from 1880 on back.
Alexander and Nancy Meadow are said to have been marr'd in 1850, so Sarah "Sally" and Eliza J. are children from Nancy's previous marriage. This raises the question of whether SEGO was her maiden name or not.
In 1850, Alexander, 19, and Nancy, 26, with daughters Sarah, 7, and Eliza, 3, lived next door to Middleton Meadows, 38, b.Ky, and his wife Ann, 44, b.Ky, and children Peggy (nickname for Margaret), Dorcus, Craig & "Manuel" (whose actual name was also Middleton E., b.abt. 1847 Ky).
Alexander is purportedly the oldest son of Middleton and Jane Anna SMITH ("Ann") Meadors/Meadows and most likely is. This older Middleton's name is John Middleton Meadows, b. 23 Mar 1812 Ky, d. 8 Oct 1894 Ky, m'd about 1830 to Ann Smith.
According to Meadows' researchers, John Middleton Meadows is the son of:
Edward Moberly Meadows, b. abt. 1784, d. abt. 1839, m'd 19 April 1810 Knox Co., Ky, Abagail Thomas.
Edward's parents are Thomas Meadows, b.abt. 1737, d. 1826 Whitley Co., Ky, and m'd abt. 1757 _?_.
Thomas's father was Jason Meadows, b. 1704, d. 1774, m'd abt. 1729 to _?_.
Still working on firming some of this up.
Bill