Mom was supposed to get land???

[lynellarainhawk]

Hello!

I was told last week by my sister Donna, that when she was little someone offered my mom some land because of her Indian ancestry. This is the first I've heard of it. Donna said mom turned it down, but she couldn't remember why. I suppose I could see her doing it if it would upset her sisters, but they would have gotten the same offer, wouldn't they? I just don't know how those things worked and was curious. Has anyone else here had that come up at some point in there family? Maybe Kerry knows.....:) Yo! Bubba! Had you ever heard anything about that? Maybe it was because she had all those brothers and didn't want to upset them. If you know the story, share it with me. I'm just curious why she would turn it down. That's just down right goofy! Well, that's all I wanted to know about. Love & Light, Lynella.;)

[Kerry]

Well Lyn - I had wrote a lengthy reply to this. But when I tried to post it - it said I wasn't logged on and it ate my reply.:mad: Anyway - I'll send you an e-mail detailing what happened. But in short I don't know if the land had anything to do with our indian blood or not. One of your sisters did own the land for a short time - then sold it.:(

[lynellarainhawk]

YOU"RE KIDDING!!!!

:( That cow! You knew that was the land? You knew the story? No one told me? THAT COW!

The next time I'm on the phone with her, I won't say anything, but, "What? Huh? What was that? Did you MOO?

I'm not mad at ya' for not saying anything. I wonder why you couldn't put your lengthy post in here. Try it again!!! Where that Ashby stubborn streak? Get it fired up, boy!

I can't believe that cow let strangers pilfer that land then simply let it go. Did she sell it or walk away from it. Cause, if it's sitting there for the cost of back taxes I'll get it myself and put a sign up that says, "No cattle grazing allowed.":D Love & Light, Lynella.

P.S. I'm serious, try it again, or ask Linda how it works.:D

[Kerry]

Man - have you got me laughing - I can just see you - all fired up.
(Dad - the boys won't let me go swimming with them...) Ha!:D

[Kerry]

Mom was offered the land sometime after Grandpa Alsie died. She turned it down because we (she or I) could not pay the back taxes. Her brothers and sisters were paying the taxes on it - and the land was just overgrown with weeds, bushes, etc. (It had gone back to nature). This land was were mom spent some of her childhood. There was, at one time, a house on it. But the house was in horrible shape and was totally unliveable by 1967. It was literaly falling down. sometime after 1967 and before 1992 It was torn down.

[Kerry]

As I understood mom - the land belonged to her mother. (Nora E. (Sutton) Kinder. It seems to me that I heard her and dad talking at one time - that the land had - at one time - belonged to Nora's mother and/or father. (Charley Sutton and/or Iva Leota Ferguson). Did the land have anything to do with our NDN ancestry? That I can't tell you - I just don't know. I will say that very recently (Since I sent you the map with the blackfoot church and cemetery on it and the old indian treaty line) I have wondered if the land had anything to do with our NDN heritage. You and I will need to dig. Probably into some old land records in Indiana. I am hoping to go there this coming summer. In the meantime - be nice to your sister - and ask her (gently) if the land ever sold or do they still have it...;) Love Ya;

[Kerry]

Also, mom didn't just give up on the land without some consideration. She talked to me about it, and she may have talked to Donna about it. But at that time none of us was in a position to do anything with it. The taxes as I understood - hadn't been paid in years. And everyone except me and Nelda was living in Colorado at that Time. I'm thinking that you may have been in Florida.?.? not sure on that one. But we just couldn't figure what we would do with the land. We didn't have the money for it. There was no way to live on it - no running water, no sewer, no electric. And one side of the land abutts a stripper pit coal mine.

[lynellarainhawk]

Tahcaska,

;) Thank you. I honestly had no idea about any of this. Is that the curse for being the baby of the family? or, as dad used to call me, #9. He used to introduce me to total strangers as, "and this is my little sweety, #9" I felt like a miner's mule. I was on that property when I was 12. Mom took me there. There was grass growing on the roof of that house it was there then. wow, I remember that now, she pulled a leaf off atree and told me to suck on it. Yeah, I thought she was nuts, so I did it and it was good! My eyes must have lit up like stars because I remember that big smile of hers and she said "It's Sassafrass." I wanted to eat the whole tree. Those stripper pits are scary. They're full of giant carp that shine like goldfish in the sun! I remember I was terrified of snakes. I was so busy keeping my eyes peeled for snakes that I missed a bunch of stuff. Wow, Phyllis was healthy then! It was before she ran off with Bob. I WANT THAT LAND BACK. I've been poopy about it since cow woman got rid of it, now I'm really poopy! Boy, how on earth did I get stuck with these people who never tell me anything? Did everyone deside the day I was born that I didn't need to know any need to know information? Well, darn it anyway! I LOVE YOU. Love & Light, Lynella.:D :D :D :D :D

[Brenda Collins Dillon]

lynellarainhawk,

I know how you feel. My mother was raised by a childless couple after her natural mother died in childbirth. Years later when her grandpa Perry died she was contacted by a lawyer and told he had left her a parcel of land in Craigsville, West Virginia. The land ran along the Cherry River and was beautiful. When mother was pregrant with me she sold the land to pay for the doctor and hospital bill. I found a little diary with all her expenses in it and the land deal hit me like a ton of bricks. An uncle had given her $100.00 for the land

Brenda

[lynellarainhawk]

Brenda,

Oh my:eek: !! Thank you for telling me that. It does make me feel better. It actually makes me feel a lot better! Maybe it'll be a good day after all. I get to drive to Denver and have a Thanksgiving afternoon with my youngest son. So that will help too! Thank's again Brenda. Love & Light, Lynella.:)

[Bill Childs]

Lyn, I just want to say that this should have been in the "Know Any Funny Stories" section.... I laughed 'til I cried!!!!!
Now, seriously #9, pull y'rself together......:):):)

[Bill Childs]

and I can't stop laughing/crying......:):):)

[lynellarainhawk]

Bill,

:p Ya' know, you're right! Funny stories it shoulda' been! I'm back together now! :) Love & Light, Lynella.

[Hana]

There seems to be a lot of that in families. People who sell off things without telling everyone, etc. When my grandma died, my great-aunt cleared out my grandma's place and gave her stuff to the Goodwill without telling us!

Now I find out that on the other side, my great-aunt sold off a home that had been built by hand by our ancestors to become a historic site, and kept the money. Now I've been told she also had the fiddle great-grandpa handmade (it was a beauty and there were articles about it in the local paper) and won't say what happened to it. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr Won't even give us the chance to buy it back from whomever she hold it to -- just not talking. (Probably doesn't want to confess she sold it.)

Anyway, people have all sorts of ideas about what should happen to family legacies. At this point, my only contribution can be whatever I can learn to tell my children. Luckily other people have been very kind and generous with their time and memories.

[lynellarainhawk]

Hana,

Thank you, AGAIN. See, I needed you to come back! Do all people get needy when they get old? I think I've been on this mountain too long. Vance probably had the right idea when he left in '73'. Oh, I would be just sick over that fiddle. I think I'd play fiddle music around her until she confessed.....Love & Light, Lynella. :D