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RDCONLEY
06-16-2004, 06:05 PM
My ggggrandmother Nancy Thornsberry was reported to have been a full blood Cherokee Blackfoot. She was born in Virginia and married my ggggrandfather Frederick Stumbo in Martinsburg, Virginina in the 1820's. They subsquently moved to Floyd county Kentucky. I am searching for information pertaining to her Indian heritage. Attached picture of Owen and Judy Stumbo Hall. Judy was a daughter of Nancy Thornsberry.

Linda
06-16-2004, 07:06 PM
Those are certainly intriguing locations. I had family in Martinsburg, VA (it's now WV), Ulms, in that era. Floyd county, KY has often come up here. I suggest using the search button, upper right, to search on the term, "floyd county" and see what comes up.

It looks like your picture didn't come through. Please send it to me as an attachment and I'll put it up for you.

Brenda Collins Dillon
06-16-2004, 09:03 PM
I am familiar with the Thornsbury/Thornsberry name and also Conley.
In 1987 the Collins family lost a valuable researcher in Eula Collins Conley. She lived in Beaverton, Oregon but was born in the mountains of West Virginia just like me. Eula's husband was from Camden on Gulley, WV and related to half of WV. Eula joked about being related to the other half.

As for the Thornsbury name , if you use the search feature on the forum and type in the name it should come up in connection with a Richard P. Robinson. I am not sure who this man was but my ggggrandpa, Meredith Collins was placed in his guardianship. Some tell me that he was an early day lawyer, others believe that Robinson mother was one of the unknown daughters of Meredith. All we have for her is the name Mary _____ and Mary was Meredith's second common law wife.

Robinson was in Russell Co. Virginia before migerated to Floyd co. Kentucky and Floyd because Pike Co. later.

BTW Welcome to the forum and I hope we can help each other.

Brenda

Bill Childs
06-17-2004, 01:51 PM
RD,
There are some Thornsberry marriages listed in "Pioneers of Eastern and Southeastern Kentucky" for Floyd Co.
Let me know if you don't have these.
Bill

RDCONLEY
06-17-2004, 04:51 PM
Thanks Bill

The Ashland, KY library has a nice genealogy section filled with Kentucky & Eastern Kentucky material to include early Kentucky census material on microfilm. I have more difficulty in locating information outside Kentucky. All of my ancestors moved to Kentucky from Virginia, Tennessee & North Carolina after the Revolution.

Bill Childs
06-19-2004, 01:28 PM
With so many of Judy/Judah's siblings marrying Floyd County SIZEMOREs, I would think that line was Native even if you hadn't mentioned it.
Is your Nancy Thornsberry the dau of John Thornsberry/ Thornsbury/ Thornsbrough and Susannah STARNS/ STARNES ?
Bill

Bill Childs
07-07-2004, 09:07 AM
Looking back up that family line, I see James Thornsberry marr'd Annie COLLINS in Floyd Co., Ky. James's Grandmother was Nancy GIBSON who marr'd Martin Thornsberry in 1838 in Floyd Co., Ky. Martin's mother was your John Thornsberry, b.abt.1773 Scott Co., VA, who marr'd Susannah STARNES, b.abt.1771 VA who was the dau of Adam STARNES and Susannah MEEK.
Most if not all the COLLINS and GIBSONs of Floyd Co Ky in that era were Saponi descended people (do a "search" for Collins and Gibson on this site for the documentation). The MEEK is possibly of Indian descent although their family lore says they were Cherokee, they came out of the Piedmont area of Central and S.W. Virginia, which argues against them being Cherokee.
I have numerous direct and indirect connections to all of these mentioned surnames in this area of Ky & Va, except for STARNES.
Bill

RDCONLEY
09-19-2006, 10:04 PM
Attached pictures of Nancy's grandchildren living in Floyd County, KY.

sammarroq
09-20-2006, 04:09 PM
Brenda,

I have been curious for some time if our families are intertwined, as my George Gibson was born in Pike Co. KY, married in Floyd Co. George's father was Martin b. NC. Also my family later moved to WV, where many still reside (Nicholas Co.) Is your WV family near Nicholas Co.?

Shirley


I am familiar with the Thornsbury/Thornsberry name and also Conley.
In 1987 the Collins family lost a valuable researcher in Eula Collins Conley. She lived in Beaverton, Oregon but was born in the mountains of West Virginia just like me. Eula's husband was from Camden on Gulley, WV and related to half of WV. Eula joked about being related to the other half.

As for the Thornsbury name , if you use the search feature on the forum and type in the name it should come up in connection with a Richard P. Robinson. I am not sure who this man was but my ggggrandpa, Meredith Collins was placed in his guardianship. Some tell me that he was an early day lawyer, others believe that Robinson mother was one of the unknown daughters of Meredith. All we have for her is the name Mary _____ and Mary was Meredith's second common law wife.

Robinson was in Russell Co. Virginia before migerated to Floyd co. Kentucky and Floyd because Pike Co. later.

BTW Welcome to the forum and I hope we can help each other.

Brenda

RDCONLEY
09-21-2006, 08:40 PM
Grandson of Nancy Thornsberry Stumbo

RDCONLEY
09-21-2006, 08:44 PM
Daughther of Nancy Thornsberry Stumbo

rockhound
09-27-2006, 12:41 PM
I have some Thornsberrys in my family. They live near my Riddle's, who are my Saponi connection.

Jeremy Slone
09-03-2007, 11:21 AM
My ggggrandmother Nancy Thornsberry was reported to have been a full blood Cherokee Blackfoot. She was born in Virginia and married my ggggrandfather Frederick Stumbo in Martinsburg, Virginina in the 1820's. They subsquently moved to Floyd county Kentucky. I am searching for information pertaining to her Indian heritage. Attached picture of Owen and Judy Stumbo Hall. Judy was a daughter of Nancy Thornsberry.

Unless she was "boundout" or adopted i wouldn't think she would be full blooded. The Thornsberry's were quakers in Rowan/Guildford/Randolph counties in North Carolina and Nancy's dad John was excluded for marrying outside the faith. He married Susannah Starnes in 1793 In Greene Co. Tenn. Then in 1815 Tax list they were living on copper creek in Scott Co. Va. where alot of their children were born even issac in 1795. I would think if there is Indian blood in this line it would be Susannah Starnes side. Many feel they are the german starnes(starlings) in eastern Tenn. but i wonder about the english starnes (stearns) in Orange/Guidford/Randolph co. North Carolina. There is a story behind my North Carolina thinking but don't have all the links yet.

Linda
09-03-2007, 07:27 PM
Unless she was "boundout" or adopted i wouldn't think she would be full blooded.

Keep in mind that even full blooded Saponi (Eastern Siouan) people may well have been quite acculturated by 1815. They'd already been disrupted for more than a century and were being formally "educated" into settler culture in the 1720's. The "Five Civilized Tribes" doesn't include them, but they were actually "civilized" before any of them.

Jeremy Slone
09-04-2007, 07:32 AM
well its pretty safe to say the Thornsberry name is white, the family was quaker from the start back in England under the preaching of George Fox when he started the movement. But i believe they married native american/melungeon woman but its just hard to follow up on. but thanks for the information of saponi, i would love to find them in my background.